Jk Kee's comment on GENTING. All Comments

Jk Kee
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买个期待,送个等待,乐观看待!希望耐心的守候能换来可观的回报!
cheng
locked in small profit from GenM today and waiting to add Genting. Will Mr Market provide attractive quotes?
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cheng
First drop of LNG in 2026 seems to be on track. Looking really good for Genting. It mentioned 40% completion and currently laying the keel block. Typical project timeline is 24 months to 30 months. This project started in Jun'24 and 24 months to 30 months means expecting first drop of LNG in 2nd half of 2026 :)
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Vin Vin
Thx alot cheng! I found the news too... But so far only the edge post it...
Hope tmr will boost the share price abit... :-)
As you mentioned above ... 2nd half of 2026... Genting will start make more profit from LNG?
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cheng
Yup. The ebitda from O&G segment should increased by then
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cheng
lets continue to 4th gear by next week :)
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lau andy kok chong
Vroommm????(
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cheng
Vroom it is. Progress in all its segment, Andy. RWS2.0 new attractions planned opening are on track, RWLV new BODs on board, O&G segment making good progress. Buckle up in Apr. And, avoid warrants at all cost :)
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cheng
O&G segment contribution in the future will depend on the natural gas price. Currently at the bottom. You can use USD$2/MMBtu to USD$5/MMBtu to estimate the return of investment of USD$1bil investment in 18 years based on the contract approved :) But this segment will start to contribute earliest by second half of 2026. https://tradingeconomics.com/commodity/natural-gas
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Vin Vin
Cheng, will increase how much profit in each quarter? Hehe... Agar agar..
Two days drop 16sen..
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cheng
profit taking is normal, Vin. You would have noticed the change of sentiments from the commentaries. I offloaded GenM per plan and prepare the funds to add Genting. Just waiting for q4'24 to be released and will add Genting - after qr and in Apr. The O&G segment typically contributed approx 500M ebitda per year and pbt approx 400M. With the capacity of the LNG facility and the approved contract (230mmscfd per day for 18 years), you may get another 500M additional revenue per year based on USD$2/MMBtu and 75% utilization of its capacity. Just a rough estimate and could be wrong.
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Vin Vin
Thx alot!! Hope got chance to treat u wonderful dinner :-)
Great info that you sharing is absolutely awesome...
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin. Good enough as long as we are making positive returns from the investment in Genting :) klsescreener is a good platform for sharing - prospects and risks.
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Jk Kee
云顶真的比较适合分两部分来操作!一部份短期,一不份长期,不然真的白等一场。哈哈
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Jk Kee
cheng 谢谢你用心的分享。谢谢你。
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cheng
You are welcome, Jk. GenS will release q4'24 results tmr :) can expect some movement on Friday for Genting. https://gentingsingapore.com/#!/en/investors/investor-calendar
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lau andy kok chong
+138sgd ...........mm....
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Vin Vin
Cheng... I am nervous... Hehe..
Hope can hit 120m Sgd... Atleast...
If below 100m Sgd.. Sure another plunge
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cheng
I don't have much expectation for Q4'24, Vin. There's seasonality factor and Harry Potter that could offset a bit of the capacity lost from hard rock hotel. Assume flattish will do.
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cheng
Thailand sets out to implement unique safeguards for locals from gambling harm with a strict proposal for casino access in the proposed integrated resorts (IRs). Under the new entry provided by the Office of the Council of State, Thais would have to meet high requirements, such as holding at least TBH50 million (US$1.5 million) in fixed deposits for at least six months. Locals would also choke up a significant TBH5,000 (US$148) entry fee.

Paetongtarn Shinawatra’s government explains that the regulations aim to limit local participation, mitigating the negative social impacts of gambling, like addiction. The proposed standards set up the gaming establishments to compete with global destinations rather than cater to the local population.
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cheng
Lots of uncertainties still. Ample time for Genting to decide whether to participate or skip this market.
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Meaw meaw Cat
Genting no advatanges at Thailand . Same as Cambodia site casino . Just don’t know how it affected Malaysia casino ( religion issue , online casino + now Thailand open 100 of casino every where soon ) triple kill . The fair price will lower down how much ?
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cheng
Haha. I doubt Genting will participate in Thailand based on the preliminary regulatory bills that are currently being proposed. Thailand needs it badly but IR players may not :)
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Tteffub Nerraw
Finally i agreed with you, Cheng. haha
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cheng
Its still in the infant stage for Thailand, TN. Even the location is not known yet. It may be attractive for Macau casino operators / IR player with major revenue from Macau though.
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pahang kia
wait for GENS today result
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pahang kia
roll the dice now place your bet
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Vin Vin
Cheng, what do you think of this qe? :-) around 140m Sgd...
Genting will get atleast 250m
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cheng
Just had a look at it, Vin. Its a positive surprise and I would say GenS has priced in the impact of RWS2.0 disruption. (1) Page 1 and Page 12 speaks a lot about the performance given the fact that Hard Rock Hotel was taken down for renovation starting Mar'24. Full year topline revenue growth of 5% and bottom line net profit shrunk by 5%. Cost of sales up by 10%. Within first half of 2024 and second half of 2024, non gaming registered 8% growth while gaming was lower by 22%. Full yoy comparison of gaming and non gaming showing single digit growth while adjusted ebitda shrunk by 6%. Overall is still a surprising strong performance for both gaming and non-gaming. Cash from the ops looks good (almost doubled the dividend payout amount) and capex was higher compared to 2023. (2) 2023 total tourists entering Singapore was 13.60M, avg 1.13M per month with avg length of stay at 3.79 days. 2024 total tourists entering Singapore was 16.53M, avg 1.38M per month with avg length of stay at 3.56. Tourist count wise registered a 21.5% growth while GenS full year performance at single digit despite higher cost, lower rooms capacity and disruptions from RWS2.0 upgrade. (3) Fast forward to 2025, Jan'25 recorded 1.63M tourists and its a strong number if you compare to the average in 2023 and 2024, and its the highest single month recorded comparing to 2023 and 2024. Page 14 is equally interesting - RWS1.5. AI for efficiencies and personalised experience, Forum for retail and dining started in Dec'24 and will open progressively in 2025, super luxury all-suite hotel and the Singapore Oceanarium in Q3 2025. And Q3 is obviously not picking from sky as if you look at the past two years tourism data, Jul and Aug tends to have the highest count of tourists entering Singapore in 2023 and 2024 :) From luxury all suite hotel to super luxury all suite hotel. There is reason to be optimistic given the strong monthly Jan'25 tourist count numbers. Just a short opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps.
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cheng
You can use the link here to monitor Singapore's tourism data. https://stan.stb.gov.sg/content/stan/en/tourism-statistics.html
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Vin Vin
Thx for the excellent explanation!! Cheng!! :-) Tmr i will buy abit more genting..
Predict for the 2025 full year gens mostly huge improvement compare to 2024... Hope this is the last chance to see genting share price below RM4....
Later on... No. More chances :-)
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin. New CFO for RWLV - On Thursday, Resorts World Las Vegas announced it has appointed Carlos Castro as its new chief operating officer and chief financial officer. Castro’s gaming and hospitality resume includes leadership roles with Hilton Hotels Corp., Caesars Entertainment and MGM Resorts International, including serving as senior vice president and CFO at Aria for more than five years, Resorts World said in a news release.

In his new role, Castro will “lead the resort’s financial strategy, operational execution, and long-term growth initiatives, ensuring continued success as a premier hospitality and entertainment destination on the Las Vegas Strip,” the release stated. His tenure with the North Strip property began earlier this week.
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Vin Vin
Today genting lowest 3.68...quiet surprise for me... I thought can stand above RM3. 80...
What a moody weekend...
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cheng
Next Friday will be volatile when Genting's results is released. And another volatile session in Apr.
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pahang kia
if supernintendo open i think more visitor if resorts world sentosa can allow to park cruise can get more visitor
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Vin Vin
Pahang kia, End of this year... Disney cruise will arrive singapore for sailing.. I predict most hotel occupancy rate will go up... And super nintendo need to wait for 4 to 5 years... Not so fast
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PRODVESTOR
Our PMX has turned into super extremist Islamic leader , be cautious , the license could be revoked anytime if he turns haywire
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cheng
Didn't notice any updates on super Nintendo in the latest update. Safe to assume that it will not be in this year.
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mint
anwar is not fit to be our prime miNister....
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Yike
saifu busy make project at Sandakan hotel
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cheng
Volatile Friday this week :)
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Vin Vin
Cheng, any expectation? Gens 140m sgd contribute RM250m to genting...
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Jason Ngan
Quarter report releasing tmr
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Jk Kee
云顶种植发佈隔天才到云顶。
云顶一般都是月尾最后一个星期的拜四,因为泰哥喜欢拜四。
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Jk Kee
Gens也是在上个拜四公佈的。
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Jason Ngan
moomoo 那里写99speedmart 2/24 genm 2/25
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cheng
I am not concerned with the net profit figure as shared previously, Vin. If there is any expectation, it will be close to 2bil ebitda, and net cash from ops going up to 7bil from 5.3bil in q3. And maybe a 10 cents dividend; up from 9 cents.
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Yike
concert and hotel always fully booked sure good sales
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Vin Vin
Ok thx alot cheng... Recently share price drop quite lot.. From 3.93 - 3.65
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cheng
its a healthy retracement, Vin. Not to be concerned at the moment as GenS results has shown that it is more resilient than we thought. GenM MY segment is depending on domestic tourism/spending during holiday/festive seasons which is pretty stable. Gent US segment good results in 2023 was mainly driven by RWLV which has set a high bar; a good challenge for the new BODs as they get their hands on the deck.
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Vin Vin
Hehe.. Today closing not bad.. Hope tmr will continue
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cheng
The next event will be by end of Apr, Vin. It was reported in the UK media previously that possible HMTM decision by Apr. UK MHRA typically meets on the last week of Thurs and Fri each month. In this case will be on the 24th and 25th of Apr. Will be a restless week for you again :)
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Vin Vin
Cheng, feel. Nervous after saw your msg... My heart beat was shoot up like 189-200...
Do u think the share price will price in first by next month if the taurx reject or approve...
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cheng
Lol, Vin. Not a problem with reject as its an open secret that Genting has invested in a few life sciences and biotechnology companies - call it part of sustainability if you will. However, its a totally different story if it is approved :) Significant upside for Genting. The US, Europe and other markets marketing authorization submission will follow suit if UK is approved. First thing first - if it is approved by UK MHRA, TauRx will have to get the products into the UK market within 3 years.
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Vin Vin
ok understand :-) thx again!
hope for the coming qe show surprise...and break 3.92 easily!!!
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cheng
you are welcome, Vin.
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Jk Kee
不相信这个季度会有很特出的表现,保持在低价的时候买进。拿了股息继续等待下个季度财报的到来。
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龍虎门
還是genting穩,買來收長期!!
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Jk Kee
买云顶真的很考耐心等待的哦!哈哈
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Jk Kee
每年拿四巴仙左右的股息,个人觉得还是可以接受的。
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Kim Fatt Tham
这个星期不知道GENTING会不会突破RM4
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mint
今天马股什么行情??....
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Yike
today market still ok.. not too jiaksai.. small retreat
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cheng
delayed response to the risks that surfaced end of last year, mint :) more to come at least until Apr. Its raining and thunderstorm out there. Dont go out there and stay in Genting first; dividend, growth plans and no impact to min wage, tariffs, supply chain. Beneficiary of lower interest especially in the US and will probably see further interest cut only in second half 2025.
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Jk Kee
现在外面也是大风大雨啊!留在还有利多在后头的云顶会比较理想吧!
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cheng
One quarter at a time and just continue to monitor any risks that could impact the footfall traffic or its ability to generate cash from its operations. Everyone's risk tolerance, liquidity situation and rate of returns are different too. Manage your own positions well will do :)
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Vin Vin
One day up.. One day drop...
Really emotional damage
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Yike
Ah Thai drawing 2d picture
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cheng
You survived the Aug'24 RWLV complaints + Hard Rock Hotel rooms capacity taken down for renovation period, Vin. This is nothing compared to the few months period. Btw, did you manage to get some tickets during the Dec'24 or Jan'25 period? If yes, you dont need to do anything now until post QR results and in Apr. Well, depending on your own liquidity.
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Vin Vin
Ok understood! SIR Cheng :-)
Yeah.. I got some ticket around 3.61 & 3.67... And last year still hold above RM4.. Just hold at the moment... Hope everything go smooth... Next 2 days is the nervous day for me
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cheng
Alright. Waiting for the qr too. I am hoping for a 10 cents dividend if the net cash from ops rises to 7bil and above. A small reward for long term shareholders.
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pahang kia
i hope so cheng already after QR then is physical AGM time
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cheng
indeed, pahang kia.
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cheng
No surprises from GenP and the cpo price trends should continue until mid of this year.
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Vin Vin
Cheng, gens + genp.. Already 300m for genting... Possible hit 500m for this qe? Hehe. Damn nervous
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Lucas Khor
希望在明天。。。。。。
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cheng
No idea, Vin. I am just hoping to see net cash from ops increase higher from the 3QFY24 baseline of 5.3bil to 7bil and opportunity to add thereafter.
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Choo
I hope dividend will increase little, reward for long term shareholders.
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cheng
It is possible if net cash from ops goes higher, Choo.
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Yike
last paper ..Ah Thai kasih edit qr cantik Sikit
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cheng
first drop of LNG in second half of 2026 it is :) Its in the upstreamonline news, cant share the link as detected numbers as phone numbers :) https://www.offshore-energy.biz/keel-laid-for-indonesias-first-flng-unit/
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Vin Vin
Thx alot cheng!! Your info better than Google :-) but today share price same2
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin. I am waiting for RWLV complaints closure status. The worst fear that started back in Aug'24 was license being revoked and coupled with RWS2.0 short term disruptions. That sent the share price spiralling down and created opportunities for low price entries :) What we may see in the future QR depends on the conclusion. Scenario #1: If license revoked, US segment kaput. This is unlikely given the independent oversight being put in place. Scenario#2: If it is just monetary fines, the recognition of the monetary fines and journal entry comes into play. The fines will be captured as part of expense and the impact is accounting profit goes down, liabilities may temporarily increase until full settlement with cash. Cash will go down and liabilities will reduce again upon settlement. Scenario #2: May provide an opportunity to add given the reaction on accounting profit/loss :)
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Vin Vin
Ok understood! Thx again Sir Cheng!!
But most investor don't like to risky... One day the RWLV cases still haven't settle.. Share price hard to move up RM4++
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cheng
Delete the app and disconnect after work, Vin. Go for a walk/hike and have a good dinner with your family. Come back tomorrow morning and check the report.
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Vin Vin
I deleted the app... But my brain cannot delete. Hahahaha.
By the way thank you very much...
Later will keep swipe 6pm onward... Hope everything all right :-p
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Tteffub Nerraw
Vin, tell me the average price and percentage of losses... dont tell me the amount.. let me see when you can come out break even..
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Yike
sure jiaksai punya ini pattern
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Jk Kee
真没想到会有这么惊讶的业绩啊!看傻了啊!哈哈
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Steven Gan
besok Limit up!!!!!Terbalik Jalan!!!
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Jk Kee
我也想啊!哈哈。。。。。。
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Yike
kasih limit down. .. no more Ah Thai
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PRODVESTOR
Bad Qr means Limit Up ? haha
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Vin Vin
Cheng, any idea on this qe? Become loss... Tmr need sell my kidney. To average genting again...
Since I'm still young.. Doesn't matter.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Cheng, are you surprise ? Or all is within your expectation?
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SEA BOBO
@Vin
Tmr confirm green...
No need to worry man...
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Vin Vin
My heart already no feeling.. Won't effect much.. Hahaha
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Jk Kee
等待五月前会有三块钱的票到来!哈哈
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