Jk Kee's comment on GENTING. All Comments

Jk Kee
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云顶几时会再破四呢?继续再等待买进。买个期待,送个等待,乐观看待!
cheng
it will be better for sure :) additional 700 rooms from the new The Waterfront hotel will be added when its completed and Hard Rock Hotel is not the only hotel to be refurbished as there are a few more undergoing refurbishments.
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Jk Kee
99的市值没突破进25大,云顶继续保留在30大。云顶暂时安心了啊!
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Jk Kee
担心跌出三十大的大户们早前卖出,现在继续保留在三十大而在临尾大量买进吗?
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cheng
we have been waiting for Genting's financial performance to be released and no harm waiting for a few more days, Jk. We just need to be aware of short term earnings disruptions from GenS and recovery from GenS is expected early of next year. As for index constituents changes, Gamuda is set to replace GenM and there should be volatility resulting from index funds rebalancing. There should be changes to reserve list too.
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Jk Kee
Cheng 对的。云顶的业绩应该不太理想,希望保持着盈利。
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cheng
I hope it's within the same range compared to Q2'24; 200M to 300M for Q3 and Q4. Q4 could be better driven by RWLVS (F1) and GenM.
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Jk Kee
对啊!理想的盈利有两亿左右就很好了。明年才会有机会赚更多。
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cheng
GenP / Plantation segment results is out and did not disappoint. This segment should continue to report similar strength at least until Q2'25. GenS recovery will take over thereafter and if the supply/demand for cpo remains tight by Q2'25, the plantation segment will continue to report similar strength in its results. else, normalization is expected. GenM is up next followed by RWLVS which is part of Genting's results. RWLVS should be flattish in Q3 and better in Q4 driven by F1 event; seasonally driven.
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pahang kia
it will have forex gain at least 50m above estimate
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Jk Kee
很期待明天云顶的成绩单!哈哈
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Jk Kee
GenP我也是有支持的,买它好像比买云顶安心得多了。希望它继续派发诱人的股息。哈哈
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cheng
FY24 for GenP will be better than FY23. FY25 pretty much depends on the supply/demand situation towards mid of 2025. You may want to keep an eye on it. Looking good so far judging by FCPO trend without looking at the production/export/inventories data from MPOB and Indonesian palm oil association (GAPKI).
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Jk Kee
好的。谢谢cheng。
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Jk Kee
即使翻新和整修还能保持着两亿左右的盈利,真的很满意了。只要继续保持两亿左右或以上就真的很美了。派息的能力保持着,然后再等新的投资带来更多的收益。云顶加油!大家加油!
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cheng
Yes, it is jk :) It should be similar in Q4 for GenS flattish against q2 as the new attractions and refurbished all-suite luxury hotel will be opened early of next year, better for RWLVS against Q3 (due to F1), GenM Malaysia segment should be better than Q3 due to holiday season.
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Jk Kee
Cheng 真的只期待云顶一直保持两亿左右的盈利,然后直到新的业务的发展成熟带来盈利。
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Vin Cullen
Cheng, what do you think of this genting qe... It seem like look average... Wait for your advice :-)
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Jk Kee
继续保持两亿左右的盈利就足够派发现在每年都发给股东的股息了。
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cheng
yes it is, jk. Should be mid to high 200 due to festive season and F1. Its ok to use 200M as your own expectation. and FY24 eps will be trending to 33 cents based on 200M net profit for Q4. 3rd consecutive year of improvement. full year net profit estimate of 1.3bil for FY24 and PE15 will give you a high price 5.02. I think Genting's recovery from the pandemic is picking up steam.
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cheng
My situation could be different compared to yours as I have just joined at 4.02, Vin. Putting aside the difference in our entry price and the result is meeting our discussion previously which is within 200M to 300M range :) If you look at the net cash from operating activities: 5.3bil versus 5.0bil comparing the same 9 months in FY24 and FY23; that is real money that Genting can spend :) By Q4, i believed the net cash from operating activities will reach 7.3bil at min. I will be eyeing for opportunity to add on :)
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Jk Kee
有看到债务减少了和现金增加了一些。很好的分析,我也会继续加码的。
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Meaw meaw Cat
现金有增加吗 ? meaw 看到的是 减少了 到22, Xxx , 债务是少了, 现金也跟着少。
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Vin Cullen
Thx alot cheng...
Q1 for genting cash flow only 1.7b...
But Q3 cash flow increase to 5.3b...consider improve alot!! Let's hold til for Q1 25...
一飞不回头:-)
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Meaw meaw Cat
大家 冷静 。 明天 Capital A Or gen m Or genting ? Capitala. Limit up 应该走不掉了 。
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LF Goh
Meaw要看好才下手哦!祝你好运!
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Jamie Leong
买大还是买小呢?
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin. Q1'25 will see improved earnings from Gens but I think Q2'25 will be able to give a sneak preview of how big is the growth of RWS2.0; all suite luxury hotel is not the only hotel refurbished/to be built :) we may see 8bil qtrly revenue by 2026?
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Kenny T
My target price 3.50 may come earlier than expected
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Jk Kee
今天应该会发布指数股的最新名单,以前的记录是跌出名单的都可能会再跌一轮的,可是现在云顶已经跌了一段时间也得蛮厉害了。不懂接下来会不会跌少一点。
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cheng
It is possible to get lower price due to index funds rebalancing if Genting is removed from KLCI constituents.
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Kenny T
Is it confirmed both mother and child are removed?
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cheng
Not yet. GenM is confirmed; based on 25th Nov closing price; triggered market cap rule and Gamuda is the replacement. As for Genting, it did not fall to 36th position at the close of 25th Nov. FTSE will announce it today. If FTSE decides to add 99smart, then, Genting will be removed.
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cheng
The link here is where FTSE will announce the changes to index constituents for countries monitored by their global equities and fixed income indices. https://www.lseg.com/en/media-centre/press-releases
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Jk Kee
cheng还好有你的帮忙。谢谢。
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cheng
You are welcome, Jk.
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cheng
phew. that was a close one. lets see what is the outcome from ftse review.
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Vin Cullen
Hi, Sir Cheng.. I thought genting today confirmed kick out from fbmklci component...? BTW Thx alot. I will go for the links..
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cheng
I did not see any announcement on KLCI Index series Dec semi annual review yet, Vin. Will add some post announcement; regardless of the outcome from the review :)
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pahang kia
many retail already sell this morning after see news
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Vin Cullen
Thx cheng.
Genting recently drop alot.. Compare to genm... Even genm still got some support at 2.10...but genting keep free fall...
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cheng
free fall means supply more than demand. Lack of demand as fund managers are probably waiting for the outcome of the FTSE review. I believe demand will be back once the review is done/effective.
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Vin Cullen
If genting drop just because of this FTSE... Still ok.. I'm worry other insider news bring down the price... And we still doesnt know yet
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pahang kia
agreed with cheng now market is full of fear and unconfidence with unverify source spread by media
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cheng
I think it started from the RWLV complaints back in Aug, Vin. Then, followed by the Dec FTSE KLCI constituents review. All these are happening at back of foreign funds being the net sellers for the last few months.
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pahang kia
next week is nevada regulation news somemore but i see genting got do some action like add 1 more people in risk / audit commitee
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Vin Cullen
https://www.klsescreener.com/v2/news/view/1437909
Just saw the news...
I think already confirm?
Both genting remove
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cheng
At least there's a date to file for response, pahang kia. Both parties can then move on to disposition plan and a closure to the complaints.
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Nick Chung
abang Cheng of many stocks why choose genm and genting ? what caught your interest in these 2 stocks ~
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pahang kia
cheng i also think that director with law background i think they know what to do because this obviously is the ex president issue not come from company RWLV already take action fire
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cheng
wah... that's a tough question ooh, Nick. Did a bit of calculations and bought it. I was just thinking its cheap - steady stream of dividend income while waiting for growth. No idea whether its right or wrong but I have considered some extreme simulations; stress test if you will - KLCI market crash by 40% and earnings disruptions similar to Covid. Just need to monitor how it evolves over time and make the necessary decision if there are changes to the variables/reasons that led me to investing in it. All is well and so far so good; manageable if you will.
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Nick Chung
yea these 2 stocks completely manipulated , a test of patience with time , racing against time with vulnerability to variables.. interesting to see how it performs next coming years
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cheng
Indeed, Nick. Will be disastrous to the portfolio by getting on board without risk management plan and extreme condition simulations. Or risk-reward with stop loss setups in TA terms.
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pahang kia
cheng seem like las vegas found solution already they hiring vvip
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cheng
Thanks for sharing, pahang kia. Hopefully it will be sorted out by Jan'25 :)
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Jk Kee
还是继续观望比较理想。哈哈
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cheng
Yup... Today's performance is phenomenal looking at the candlestick pattern for the first half, Jk. The pessimistic faction against the optimistic faction :) The optimistic faction pushes high and pessimistic pushes it down again. May the force be with the winner which should be followed through by confirmation.
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Jk Kee
等在低价的时候会再继续买进。等待中。。。。。。哈哈
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Jk Kee
云顶稳定的股息就是安心的持有 。
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cheng
Yes, it is, Jk. Offering funds/insti the opportunity to add Genting into their income portfolio with more than 4% dy now :)
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Jk Kee
发展是需要时间的,就拿着股息等待着小树长大吧!云顶加油!
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cheng
Oceanarium and the all suite luxury hotel replacing Hard Rock Hotel will be opened first half of 2025 too. GenS earnings disruptions starting Q2'24 will be recovered by then; followed by earnings growth as more attractions being launched including additional hotel rooms capacity.
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Vin Cullen
Thx for the great info cheng!
Today huge vol... But share price like ikan bilis.. High shooting star!!
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Jk Kee
谢谢cheng总是带来了好消息。哈哈
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin, Jk. Its good that there are more clarity to RWS2.0 development now including exact opening date. The same goes with the BOD line up for RWLV which pahang kia shared. The timing of the announcement seems to be pointing to part of the remediation plan for the complaints. As for the trends today, its not shooting star per se. Take it as inverted hammer. Its easier to interpret the market psychology - optimistic faction pushes high and pessimistic faction pushes down; the bull versus bear :) The winner in the following week will determine the direction moving forward.
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Vin Cullen
Hehe. Happy weekend cheng and every genting investor here... Hope next week another good news for genting.. Cheers!
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Jk Kee
对啊!这星期追云顶的新闻也真的累了。周末好好的休息吧!愿大家周末愉快!
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cheng
have a great weekend :)
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Fatty Bombom
Cheng,rumoures say old casino Hollywood will reopen next month,now already every genting taxi driver talk about this story………every genting buddy,happy weekend bye
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Vin Cullen
Fatty, I prefer old casino close... & can save more cost... Gambler don't mind to walk 1km far... Haha..
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pahang kia
RWLV got very well team incharge can auto pilot already now focus back genting malaysia side a lot need to optimize
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cheng
Take the announcement as part of the actions put in place in the response to the complaints, pahang kia. Dedicated oversight team if you will. And LKT and his leadership team is really smart in announcing the RWLV BODs :) Thumbs-up!
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cheng
Current leisure and hospitality revenue exceeded pre pandemic level, FB. Pre pandemic here means all gaming facilities are available. So, doesn't really matter whether it will be opened next month. Better to be more efficient first.
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Vin Cullen
Hope Q4 will annouce higher special dividend... Before mco.. Dividend was paid around 20-22sen FY
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cheng
I think RWLV complaints will have a positive closure soon, Vin. Have a look at their BODs. One of them caught my attention - A. G. Burnett :) currently a Partner in the Gaming & Administrative Law Group with McDonald Carano. Prior to joining McDonald Carano, Burnett served as the Chairman of the Nevada Gaming Control Board (NGCB) from 2012 through 2017, and as a Member of the NGCB from 2011 to 2012. He also served as a member of the Governor's Gaming Policy Committee.
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Vin Cullen
Yeah.. Hopefully settled with little punishment .. Two more days Genting will respond to Nevada.. Wish everything go smooth...
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cheng
Should be monetary fines and revamp of AML policies, Vin. Ratings agency like Fitch and Moody's are not expecting these (AML complaints and RAV Bahamas dispute) to result in significant financial damages and disruptions to operations.
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Vin Cullen
Hi. Cheng... Wish u are good :-)
I think genting already respond to Nevada... Hope everything go smooth... And waiting for taurx news as well... Keke..
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Meaw meaw Cat
more to come , 2.3 soon
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马超海
云顶会倒闭吗?还是pn17 on da way ?
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Jk Kee
云顶除了钱,还有名。你和我倒了它还是继续营业的。哈哈
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Kon Foo Siow
马超海我想问你几岁,玩股票多少年了。
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马超海
Mr Kon 我没玩股票,给股票玩我就有,51岁
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Jk Kee
马超海买股票只是玩玩而已,他的正业是网红来的。最近他很红哦!到处都是他的身影。别去迷恋马哥哦!哈哈
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Vin Cullen
362 buy queve 有人玩野。。。一直放又减
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Jk Kee
Vin真有钱啊!还想再买啊!哈哈
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cheng
Thanks, Vin. Best wishes to you too :) Let's keep an eye on the NGC upcoming agenda for the disposition.
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cheng
Yes, Vin. That's the typical closure / disposition plan for the complaints if you look at the historical complaints list from the date filed to the disposition date - https://gaming.nv.gov/gaming/complaints/stipulations/
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Vin Cullen
Cheng, normally It will take around 1-2 months to know the result?
Maybe taurx will announce 1st... Hope it really approve...
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Vin Cullen
Jk 没办法。。
被逼average.. 跌到太狂了。。。
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Jk Kee
vin 不懂你有没有发现,其实云顶的股价需要跌到接近三块一段时间,云顶的路才会更好走的。哈哈
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cheng
As for HMTM, TauRx will have to wait for the result of their marketing authorization approval from UK MHRA. It will be out of the 150 days if there is no announcement from UK MHRA by end of Jan'25; may take a few more months. GenS recovery would have started by then.
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Vin Cullen
Jk.. 3块一很多人伤。。。走喽。。。

Cheng, possible taurx get reject? Because if really approve. Why need to wait til last minute... Mid of Dec will announce.. If approve
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cheng
these are drugs that gets into human body, Vin :) It has to be reviewed thoroughly before being approved. Different authority may have different practices. The US FDA allow public to dial in/join the call for any new drugs data review prior to approval :) none for UK MHRA and UK MHRA depends on Commission on Human Medicines for the review of such new drugs/meds if I am not mistaken.
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Vin Cullen
Thx for the great explanation cheng!!
:-)
BTW genting share price really like sxxt lol... Recently plunge too much.. Hope can go back to RM4 ASAP..
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cheng
you are welcome, Vin. the plunge started in Aug driven by Gen S near term earnings disruption, RWLV complaints and index funds rebalancing which will be completed before 23rd Dec. Should be marching towards RM4 when GenS showing signs of recovery - Q2'25 if not Q1'25; when new attractions being opened to the public.
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Vin Cullen
Not dare to check my portfolio...
Hopefully Q4 look ok compare to Q3... Genm still will forex again right? But maybe 200-300m since the dollar keep maintain at 4.40++
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cheng
GenM asset write off lowered the PBT by 200M+. Should not be seeing this. Footfall tends to be higher during holidays/festive seasons.
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cheng
hopefully you have a risk management plan in place, Vin.
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