JLK Forever's comment on TOPGLOV. All Comments

JLK Forever
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price going down. we cannot over predict the future. optimistic glove also will have its pessimistic side
雨天
y only commented when price is down sided?
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joseph wong
jkl always like that marh... 1st day u know mie ?
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JLK Forever
research house mention to take profits. not only myself thinking it's overvalue by goreng-ing
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Khairul Yazid
Only aminvest and that is also Hold call not sell call. Citigroup and other institutional investors kept on acquiring the dips for topglov. Basic investing. You put money when you think the company is profitable. Anything you wanna say against tg making huge profits? Or maybe you’re just trying to steal some retail guys to go buy your preferred stocks? Haha good effort
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JLK Forever
how long that fat profit can sustain? whole life or certain period? we have seen exaggerate rally to the peak. citigroup is like EPF,they'll throw when the price peak again thanks to naive guys that follow the goreng
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Khairul Yazid
Do you think the demand will drop soon? Doesn’t seem like it. Most probably will have higher demands to administer vaccine and there’s a hell lot of vaccine to administer haha demand stays then profit stays. In fact many companies post terrible earnings these few quarters. So quite a no brainer to invest in such high profit well performing stocks. Unless you have other points to share I’m open to listen to your 2 cents ;)
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JLK Forever
demand will be fulfil by other glove stocks companies. top glove is not monopolying the market. that's why I said there won't be fat profit
it's not realistic.
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Khairul Yazid
I bet the report will say otherwise. Remember there is more people to be vaccinated than those being treated with covid now. Thus demanding more gloves. And come on we also don’t want monopoly in the economy but we both know tg is the biggest rubber glove company. Spot prices keep going up. What makes you so uncertain? I wanna know because at least i can reassess my risk too
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michael hosehliao
jlk, whats is ur expected PAT?
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YinG
Demand will be fulfill by other company? Do u knw market share of topglove and their plan in expanding? Those new entry into glove industry takes how many market share only? Can they even survive in competing with top 4? Is asp dropping?
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JLK Forever
hardcore top glove supporter? other gloves company buy land to keep?
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YinG
Their expand bigger then topglove? Their product quality better? Braindead?
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JLK Forever
expand not because of who bigger. haha. it's to meet demand and profit. when supply more than demand do you think top glove can maintain that fat profit for long? top glove is great company but people goreng until overvalue.
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Khairul Yazid
There won’t be oversupply anytime soon. Just like i said there are billions of people that will be administered vaccine to which is a far greater number than the covid cases now. And all those will require a lot of glove usage. Until you can give a solid proof of oversupply I can’t really say i agree with you ?
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YinG
Even WHO also wishing to end the covid in 2 year~ long enough?
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JLK Forever
glove supply cannot be met by one glove company, that's why there's so many glove companies enter the arena. even top glove booked all the contracts can TG deliver on time? they have the capacity to meet all demands?
2 years is just an estimate. world are sharing among themselves the covid19 data so very soon vaccine will be produced successfully.
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Dom CL
Very simple ... sell your ticket if there is no faith .. keep if you believed in their fundamental. Everyone gots his own point and view .. nobody can tell how high it can go and how far they will drop ??
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YinG
Same question to other company~
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YinG
He should not only sell~ buy put warrant better
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JLK Forever
Dom that's why I said renter when price low. can take some profit first. next month buy again might not be too late.
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Khairul Yazid
I prefer investing rather than speculating like that. You might not be able to enter low after this especially bonus issue around the corner. So all the best for your strategy mate
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JLK Forever
take profit is not speculating. it's investing for long term. research house also downgrade to neutral. means there's something brewing
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Khairul Yazid
Let’s say it’s not topglove stocks we’re talking. When you get one hold call and others are putting buy call what would you do? Especially if that stock is the biggest player in it’s industry with supernormal profita at the moment? Even aminvest is not confident enough to put a sell call but instead they put a neutral view now. And you know why, they’re downgrading just bcs of the recent drop. If tg share price go higher these same people will put on a new tp and a buy call and by that time it’s pretty much too late i guess
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JLK Forever
khairul, vaccine news anytime will out. even the price from 4.xx increase up to 6 fold to 26 that's already showing the optimism but more than 26 it's exaggerate
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YinG
Every research house has different opinion and tp tho~
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JLK Forever
like I said you can buy , anything more than 25 do you think it's reasonable? there's all the hype that it's breach 30. can your heart take it even some vaccine news pop out?
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YinG
Why not? Check history data when h1n1 vaccine out
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YinG
We will see its qr performance to evaluate whether its reasonable but not with news
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JLK Forever
that's easy for you to say when most of the hardcore supporter purchase way below 20. of course there'll be good sentiment that glove stock will be higher and that's only good for you. people taking the risk for your fat profit to jack up the stock price. haha.
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JLK Forever
when the ship sinks they'll stuck on high floor with nice penthouse view.
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Khairul Yazid
Might be true. Not gonna argue with that. But it’s also not impossible. Many other stocks worlwide have shown such roi can be attained. It all depends or your risk assessment and appetite. If these rubber glove companies received more demand once vaccine is compulsory to be administered one day all the gains will make sense. Especially when not many industries are performing well now. With around 24-25 mil of cases worldwide these companies already thrived like crazy. Imagine if cincai you give the vaccine only to 2 billion people. I just can’t see their demand going down anytime soon. Remember, high can go higher. And yes it can fall but that’s the risk that is needed to be weighed if you believe it’ll make supernormal returns. If it’s low risk and less research needed then everyone can jump on it and make easy money. Now it depends on your calculations and the risk you plan on taking and i wish you all the best with your choice
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YinG
Thats how u think with relevant instead of blinding with news, i never call buy but think of the reason to sell the company. Due to news or stock price fluctuation while the value of the company still there and secured order for the next year?
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YinG
While actual asp still increasing tho
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JLK Forever
order secured that's why it had reached the peak. how much more order top glove can take? can you deliver if you taking more order while capacity remain the same? at the same time fully maximise all manpower and machinery?
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Khairul Yazid
What are you talking about? that’s why they are constantly expanding. To keep up with the demand. You think they don’t consider if vaccine was to appear and they might lose more money from expanding? But they still expand because of the reasons i told you above. More gloves are needed and there’s no better company to be trusted than these big rubber glove companies.
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JLK Forever
current price reflect the capability of top glove. I would say it's peak stock price. demand of gloves is based on future prediction. can you imagine when vaccine successfully approved and injected into the masses. what happens to those extra capacity of gloves factory? yes profit is there but is it fat profit or normal profit? gloves demand will shrink down very fast and how they address this?
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Khairul Yazid
And do you really think the current capacity of gloves is enough to administer vaccine to billions of people? They are playing catch up with demand even with only 25million cases currently. So this is where we contradict. No one’s wrong. But we have different view on the capacity of gloves needed when vaccine is available and i have full respect with your opinion. It’s just that i see it differently
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5agittarius1218
If you really worry about the future, you can ignore the counter or buy put warrant. Dont have to analyse so much here and wasting your time and energy. People tends to follow trend, and everyone has their own strategy. Just stick on your own strategy will do and let people earn/lose their own money. What they buy and what the sold has nothing to do with you
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Khairul Yazid
It’s just fun to discuss. You’ll hear opinions you don’t get from the news. Quite important at the moment because of the high retail participation in the market rn. This kinda discussions can be quite intriguing haha
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JLK Forever
we can't over predict the future. who knows AI will administer the vaccines ? since it's so contagious.
I am not asking you to sell, but be realistic of the company value. it's because of the pandemic it becomes a gem. imagine no pandemic, can it be 20+ ? just my 2 cents
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YinG
Look at Russia, they have their own vaccine alr but how about their confirmed case on covid now?
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YinG
Even the vaccine is out, how many they can produce per year?
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JLK Forever
YinG vaccines company will make advance preparations to be selected by gov to cater for mass productions. that part you don't have to worry. the most important humane part is that we are almost breakthrough as day passed
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Yong Man Leong
I agreed TG might at peak of production capacity at this rate, I believe their production capacity is at around 95%. And this is the time where spot rate and spot order jump in. With the market knowing the supply of glove in the whole market is limited, they willing to pay premium (spot rate) to ensure the delivery lead time is faster. You can see the production for spot order has been increased to 30% as compared to previous few months. With more spot orders coming in, it will benefit the co.
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5agittarius1218
I am not feeling offended. Just asking you dont waste time and energy only. People has their own preference. I dont know how to predict future, but now the trend is glove counter. Just let them follow the trend. So they support their gloves, you support your vaccine. Both are happy.
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Yeh Cuan Gan
agreed with above
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KK Han
We invest because it is an uptrend stock now. Even though price drop 1-2 ringgit a day doesn’t matter because we know the upcoming quarter will be doing good. Current price still has more upside. We will periodically monitor the trend and get updated with the latest news and decide the next move. Happy investing guys !
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Yap Yong Teck
Results will tell. Analysts are expecting PAT 1.3 to 1.4b for coming quarters. Before covid, one quarter is around 100m++. And current order lead time is 400 to 500 days. Topglove also collected 20% to 30% deposits. In my opinion, one year profits locked. Correct me if I am wrong.
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Khoon Lin Bong
hello jlk, you have glove tickets or not? why you day day cry father cry mother when price dropped a bit?
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vian wl
@yap Yong teck excited to see their planning when they get a few years worth of profits in like 1 year. don't think ese are going to be dead wealth :)
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