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William Yang
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Accumulation begins! Going to explode soon.
William Yang
Thanks Cheng. I’m using rakuten which is nominee
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cheng
you are welcome, william
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sws lss
It is rare to find a counter which can earn more than 10 million in 4 year conservatively with market value only 100m+. Current market value damn low. The true value should be more than 400m+.
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cheng
The Johor Sand and Granite Lorry Operators' Association, which represents more than 100 operators, said it had no choice but to raise prices to avoid losses due to the high cost of diesel, which rose from RM2.15 to a record RM3.35 on Monday.
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cheng
Even the tipper lorries have increased their prices. Will be a surprise if readymix concrete trucks did not follow suit. Lets keep an eye on q1'25 net profit :) May see some of the positive impact in q4'24 if Esceram increase the readymix concrete price within this month itself.
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sam sam
Something brewing? Buying power and strong support from recent day
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cheng
KUALA LUMPUR, June 14 — The price of goods in the construction sector has surged by nearly 30 per cent following the recent increase in diesel prices, said Datuk Azman Yusoff, president of the Bumiputera Contractors Association of Malaysia (PKBM). Speaking to Sinar Harian, Azman described the price hike as the highest in the country’s history, with suppliers setting new rates for construction materials since Monday.“The suppliers have also threatened to halt deliveries if the new price proposals are not adhered to,” he said. “We appeal to the Malaysian Construction Industry Development Board (CIDB) and the Ministry of Domestic Trade and Cost of Living (KPDN) to immediately monitor suppliers exploiting the diesel price change.”
Azman added that G1 to G7 contractors were among those most affected by the price increases. In Malaysia, contractors are classified into seven categories (G1 to G7) based on their financial capacity and ability to undertake projects of varying sizes and complexities. These categories are defined by the Construction Industry Development Board (CIDB) Malaysia.
He warned that construction costs will inevitably rise, potentially delaying project completions and causing substantial financial losses for contractors. “In addition, there has been an increase in the rental costs of machinery, such as heavy machinery, excavators, and pavers for infrastructure projects. “The price of raw materials, including ready-mixed concrete and other construction materials for building and road work, has also risen by 30%,” he added.
On Wednesday, Communications Minister Fahmi Fadzil cautioned businesses against raising prices just two days after the government floated retail diesel prices. He assured that authorities are closely monitoring the situation and promised swift action against companies attempting to profit from the subsidy rationalisation drive. Fahmi also mentioned public complaints that firms in the construction sector were among those exploiting the diesel subsidy rollback to increase prices.“After a check, we found that the construction sector never received any subsidies before, so there is no reason for them to hike up prices,” he stated.
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cheng
so, ready-mixed concrete has risen by 30% :) Interesting.
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JustMD90 SWY
Ohh yea baby~~~ good la price rise i like
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af chong
gold price concrete
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William Yang
Cheng - not trying to be negative - but don’t think diesel price hike is the catalyst. Is just normal hike. Won’t turn around the business so big
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cheng
Building material segment for Esceram is big :) As Is - 95% of the revenue from Esceram is derived from Evermix readymixed concrete. We will know whether higher ASP will improve the net profit of Esceram come Q1'25. On top of that, construction activities continued to be strong - civil structure works, residential and non-residential.
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sam sam
William, news already stated building materials like ready mix concrete up 30% as diesel hiked. Some of them refused to deliver goods if client doesn’t agree to accept the new price.
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sam sam
Harta ramp up production line, and lead time from 1month to 2-3month now. If their glove business really back to normal, which will benefit esceram. And also building materials price hike which will earn extra profit from there
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cheng
The glove makers ASP are very sensitive to natural gas and electricity tariffs impacting their margins. Nitrile gloves inventories manufactured in 2020/2021 will start to expire next year; 5 years shelf life. We should see production to pick up gradually for the big 4 four glove makers. Demand and ASP will determine the pace of ramp up for the big 4 glove makers.
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sws lss
Tomorrow likely will go 0.24
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JustMD90 SWY
Tomorrow will have good progress
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William Yang
Sws lss - big ask la for 0.24
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jimmy zai
nothing happen...hahaha
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sam sam
Building materials not earning much to support share price. 10M is not a big ask at all. Otherwise what is the point investing or goreng?
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cheng
10M is a big ask leh. But it is possible now with the ready mixed concrete price increase + increased construction activities. No idea what is driving the recent market force churning. Could be the anticipation of post diesel hike or the new shareholders on board with the consideration shares? Its beyond our circle of influence and we can only manage our own positions.
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sam sam
Consideration share at 0.32, more than 50% discount from current price. Doesn’t make sense. Unless new shareholder want to collect more before issuing new share.
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cheng
yup. existing esceram mgmt believes that esceram share price is undervalued and allocated payment of a portion of the acquisition price with the consideration shares at 0.32 cents. And Evermix agreed with the deal. We will know in the future whether 0.32 is indeed the fair value of Esceram :)
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William Yang
Nothing much today. Only show is after 3 good QR then yes
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cheng
KUALA LUMPUR (June 19): Top Glove Corp Bhd (KL:TOPGLOV) has returned to the black in its third financial quarter ended May 31, 2024 (3QFY2024), after posting losses for the last seven consecutive quarters, primarily driven by stronger glove demand as customers replenished their glove inventories having cleared excess stocks.
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cheng
Customers will continue to replenish their inventories as we marches towards next year where the nitrile gloves manufactured in 2020 will be expired followed by those manufactured in 2021. These two manufacturing years are probably the ones causing the excess stocks in the market :) latex has expired and being replenished accordingly as it has shorter shelf life.
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William Yang
Did esceramic said which customers that they are selling it too?
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sam sam
Glove sector good = esceramic good. But my concern is building materials segment.
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cheng
Above link is showing the construction statistics. Evermix ready mix concrete is supplied to 3 major groups - residential (>60%), commercial (>20%) and civil / infrastructure (10%). Looking at the statistics, demand for its concrete should be good. The key point here is still the ASP that will help to increase its margins.
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cheng
[Extracted from AR2023 page 11; Operation Review for Building Material]: We continued to shift our sales mix from infrastructure and high-rise residential projects to industrial development and landed residential projects to better manage our business risk portfolio and also realignment of customers mix to reduce credit risk. The cement price hikes during the period under review had greatly impacted our margins, however we managed to pass down the cost increase to the end users, amidst strong protests.
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William Yang
Personally, will still take time to move the needle.
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JustMD90 SWY
Can accumulate at the moment
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sam sam
Some group accumulating at current price. Probably will move to 0.30 next month. With QR
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sam sam
Early next month, if price still 0.200 I will top up when payday
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William Yang
Wow Sam Sam. So confident ??
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sam sam
This company is undervalued at current price. We will see 0.300 next month before QR
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William Yang
Glad to see positivity from you Sam.
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William Yang
Cheng would agree
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sam sam
William Cheers, this week some group of people collecting quietly. Their entry price 0.190-0.200, buy now to be safe. Once price shot up will get stuck
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JustMD90 SWY
Loaded up 30000 units at 19.5 and 30000 units at 20… finding chance top up
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William Yang
It is going to be a very slow climb. Now no movement yet, volume is very low
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sam sam
No movement because some group collecting quietly. Keep luring people to sell them at 0.200!!! Please don’t shot up first, wait for my payday please want to top up rm10k more
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cheng
lets wait for the upcoming qr for signs of higher asp. else, the margins from construction will still be at lower ends if they have to absorb the diesel hike without adjustment to the selling price.
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sws lss
Still silent mode with super undervalued. Next quarter wont be so good which is expected. The bottom already formed. It is a good sign for next financial year to rebound.
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cheng
Depends when and how much is the adjustment of selling price for their ready mixed concrete. OPC is going up, sand and aggregates too. Coupled with diesel hike. If adjustment has been done in June, we should see improved margin for building materials.
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William Yang
Agree with sws lss. This year probably nothing, no movement. QR has to be really good first and consistent and must have catalyst. As you can see from many QR result, it is fantastic but no movement on price. It need to have major catalyst or free warrant to go to 0.30.
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sam sam
need contract like gdb
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sws lss
GDP market value 347m Esceram 134m. If compare to Profit, Cash, NTA, PE and ROE much better than GDP. Cant find the reason why it cant rise. Only reason i assume is big boys still want to accumulate more.
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cheng
Market force are done with churning at the moment. Construction activities continues to pick up (both public and private sectors). Current quarter performance is the final qr to wrap up the profit guarantee terms for acquisition of Evermix; met the requirements if you will.
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sam sam
Today market like dead.
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cheng
good then. opportunity to add on :)
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sam sam
But the price stagnant, if can go below 0.15 then good. Keep dreaming
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William Yang
1 week has passed. Nothing happened. Expected
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Eddy Wong
same here,consolidation is in the making
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Eddy Khoo
Consideration shares for the purchase of Evermix would be issued soon in August.
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cheng
Consideration shares at 0.32 per share for Evermix owners and current market price at 0.20 :)
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Eddy Khoo
Evermix owners being short changed 37.5% at this price now.
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Eddy Khoo
question is how much would the new issue shares gonna dilute Esceramic share price in August?
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cheng
Many diff ways to look at it. The market will priced it accordingly eventually.
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Eddy Khoo
Additional around 34 millions ++ new shares which is around 5.07% of current total shares issued.
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cheng
Providing additional liquidity :)
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jimmy zai
bad sign for me
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cheng
bad sign = good opportunity for bottom fishing. waiting patiently.
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William Yang
Cheng - so many years already, still waiting for bottom fishing?
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cheng
I have just initiated small position this year at 0.195, William. Less than 4 months if you will. I can wait for the upcoming two quarters performance to determine the next steps.
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sam sam
From 0.325 to 0.175 only happened last year. So just patient wait for 0.300. Agree with cheng, if next two quarter cannot earn much profit that means this counter is shit. Glove counter recovering and cement sector should be very good. If this company still not make more than 10M per quarter then can say bye bye shitty counter. :)
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sws lss
i am very sure it wont earn 10m per quarter. You can say bye bye now. No need to wait. Dont expect more on next quarter.
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sam sam
Look at others cement counter, the demand is high. But you cannot make money at all, what is the problem, management cannot do shit?
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William Yang
Why do negative Sam? Before that you were positive. Esceramic needs time. Market is competitive.
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sam sam
I am positive with this counter, that’s why I have expectation with it. My 10M per quarter isn’t that unreasonable at all. As company two main stream business are in good shape.
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sws lss
after close above 0.215, baru ada cerita.
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sws lss
very high chance to retest 215 soon.
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JustMD90 SWY
Mau beli , beli… tak mau beli, jgn beli~~ senang cerita
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cheng
bulat air kerana pembetung, bulat manusia kerana muafakat :)
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zuraida ghazali
pandai cheng...eheee
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JustMD90 SWY
Its a man’s obligation to put is boneration into a woman’s separation as this kind of penetration will increase the population of the future generation … cuba tongue twister ni
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William Yang
So how? While waiting, what are we doing
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JustMD90 SWY
Top up more while waiting
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cheng
cuma rasa lebih mudah/senang bertukar pendapat secara aman dan damai, zuraida :) Makan tak lalu, tidur tak lena bila saham yang dipegang dianaktirikan oleh Mr. Market :)
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zuraida ghazali
sama la cheng ... macam menunggu bulan jatuh ke riba.. bangun la esceram.... huhuhu
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cheng
menguji kesabaran :)
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sam sam
Someone purposely doing it not letting
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JustMD90 SWY
Sabar je and top up
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sam sam
Sudah top up yesterday at 0.200cent. First thing to do after payday
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Anthony Gue
Tommorrow put on fire!
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JustMD90 SWY
Kasi chance top up lagi la hahahaha…at least give me 2 More months to collect
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sam sam
I am thinking to top up one more time next month, but depends on the price.
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William Yang
Wah top up so much? Lol
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JustMD90 SWY
Sam sam alot d … william buying?
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William Yang
very small position but the community here is nice
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sws lss
go go go go
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JustMD90 SWY
Hexcare also gogo banyak main penny stock
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sam sam
cement will be like hot cake, HSR consume tons of cement. Demand should be extremely high!
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sam sam
if big companies like mcement and humeind supply to hsr and others big infrastructure projects. Then who is going to supply those private and residential projects? Which means it will benefit the small cap of cement companies like ice cream.
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cheng
not exactly cement but uses cement (OPC), sand and aggregates to produce concrete, sam. And yes, they are supplying ready mixed concrete to residential, non residential and civil structure projects. Adjustment to ASP will increase the margins as building material is Esceram's major revenue now ~95%.
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JustMD90 SWY
Dont fly first dont fly first… fly end of this year…kasi chance top up kaokao
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William Yang
KLCI the best performing in SEA. As small cap has rally. But not this counter. Tell me why? :)
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Anthony Gue
Today not, it does not mean tommorrow not.
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Alvin Au
today tomorrow.... it will never come
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