Book Soon Tan's comment on AIMFLEX. All Comments

Book Soon Tan
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This chuah family team con jobs. To lure you in to their trap. Run....
PRODVESTOR
There's once a saying

Buy when no one cares, sell when there is a lot of news coverage, and pasar uncle aunties also cheering at it . Till now , not even a newspaper covers about this company . Look at the market cap and FA of other tech players : Jftech , Coraza , Jhm , Edelteq , Eca . What can you see except in these companies' FA ?
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SEA BOBO
Funds will buy heavily when there's a coverage, pushing the price up up up... Usually retailers/punters will buy when the price is high, but not the other way round... When the funds want to exit, media will start to report good news about the company, pushing the price up again then they'll dump their holdings to the 'long term investors'
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SEA BOBO
Ytl & Ytlpower are the good examples...
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PRODVESTOR
History always repeats itself , retailers are always the last to join the game =) Not forgetting glove counters too . Retailers only join wherever the counters are HOT or when the share price surge to ATH like the recent BTC / Tanco / Sridge . Who is the casualty for Jan limit down ?
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SEA BOBO
In investing, we need to get our mental model right... Be happy when the price is down, be sad when the price is up.
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SEA BOBO
Bought more at 0.15 today...
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Tok Tiong
大佬来吃下150。10粒而已。反正今天都加码了。closing比较美。
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Tok Tiong
谢谢大哥。。。。。。。
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Marcus -
闭市前 吃了点 . 我又回来啦
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SEA BOBO
Bro, 3300 units...?
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Mari Gold
等一下,还没出粮啊。
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Michael Saw
如果等下跌到0.13怎么办?
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Marcus -
如果上涨0.230 怎么办 ? 嘻嘻
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Michael Saw
大家一起ho se lo哈哈哈
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Heng Heng
Marcus,如果有一天,。。。。。哈哈
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PRODVESTOR
Chuah bought so much Penta =)
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Marcus -
不要想那么多 反正已经买了
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SEA BOBO
跌到0.13,还是继续买咯
另一个chuah送了我蛮多子弹。。。哈哈
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PRODVESTOR
@SEABOBO Have a look at ECA QR, which was just released . What can you say about it ? Funds raised from IPO also gone case , business dropped more than 80% , operating cash flow also in red , but retailers love it . I heard many fund managers bought it at level 9 +
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SEA BOBO
Fund managers kena con also...
Last time it was promoted as mini penta?? Many retailers kena trapped by ECA also.
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PRODVESTOR
Yes , Edelteq and Eca , retailers and funds managers all at hype , share price crashed more than 60% , same as Dnex also , even Foxconn kena con , stay at RM 0.93
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SEA BOBO
Dnex used to be sibe gungho after the silterra acquisition. It puzzled me because they didnt have the experience in this space but was able to acquire it from khazanah.
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Michael Saw
The most important are u sure Aimflex factories are running 6 days 2 shifts?
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PRODVESTOR
They managed to grab all fund managers' and retailers' attention in 2020 , there after Silterra is still in red . Dnex would be in deep shit if not Ping Petroleum
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PRODVESTOR
They have successfully to con Foxconn , retailers , fund managers and many PLC boss , VS boss also kena
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SEA BOBO
Ya siao, silterra is actually way behind the industry...
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PRODVESTOR
Silterra at ancient chips, lol
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PRODVESTOR
Foxconn stays in penthouse till 2030 lolz
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SEA BOBO
Dnex needs to invest billions in order to keep silterra alive... Did they... Haha
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PRODVESTOR
Silterra is still at 200mm , tsmc also going to 2 nm haha , how to compete with global wafer .
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SEA BOBO
Actually tsmc is a monopoly in the advanced node market. This is bad for the industry, but good for themselves
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SEA BOBO
Silterra cannot la... Too late to play catch up. Mature node got many competitors.. UMC, global foundaries...
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PRODVESTOR
Malaysia has commited multi billion to Silterra before being sold to Dnex , but as you know, it's all mismanaged like Pos and Mas / Msm
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Mari Gold
Michael saw, if factory really running 6 days 2 shifts share price wont be so low let u join liao lo. 看似有猫腻,实际是鱼饵。自己小心!
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PRODVESTOR
@Mari Gold , go witness yourself at their penang plant
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PRODVESTOR
The addresss is on website, you can just drive and have a look with your own eye =)
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PRODVESTOR
@SEABOBO , Dnex found 2 strong muscle to support their expansion and upgrade in 2021, but they screw it : CGP and Foxconn . They have only 400 mil cash after so many rounds of funds raising, can't even buy EUV machine , how to upgrade their machines and move on to advance logic technologies
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Michael Saw
Mari Gold, 要问Derrick. 很难讲如果才开始忙可能被低估。如果忙了很久业绩应该可以看到。等Derric回复再等看业绩。我买Luster而已,Aimflex我没下注。
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PRODVESTOR
If excluded the forex loss on last QR , PAT year on year up more than 100% . A few things to check on P&L , balance sheet , cash flow , revenue etc
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PRODVESTOR
Have a look at ECA QR, which was just released yesterday
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SEA BOBO
Dnex funny la, one EUV machine cost around few hundred million US dollar, I don't think it's possible la. To build an advanced wafer fab factory, you need about 40 billion usd and years of tax exemption from the government...
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SEA BOBO
No need to explain la haha, just buy if you think it's a good investment, sell if you think it's a lousy investment.
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SEA BOBO
Everytime when someone tells me a good fundamental company stock is a scam, it's a music to my ears.
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Michael Saw
True, have faith in the accuracy of your findings. Let time prove by itself.
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PRODVESTOR
@SEA BOBO , This is very true in BM . Companies like ECA / EDELTEQ are real gems , companies like AIMs, only a scam =(
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PRODVESTOR
Close to 6b market cap for natgate , a company with core profit loss but gain attention due to nvidia gpu
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SEA BOBO
There's a saying in Mandarin, 站在风口的猪都会飞
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Heng Seng
check out liewchintong fb. He got visit natgate factory hint revenue only release 1/4
if next QR can show profit increase pig continue fly
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PRODVESTOR
High revenue but less than 1% of profit margin. High revenue due to the selling price of GPU
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Heng Seng
PhillipCapital research
NatGate while benefited from significant forex gain during the quarter, we gather that headline profit was also affected by various one offs, including RM18m provision made on product liabilities, RM7m product development costs, and RM20m cost of good revaluation.
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Admiral Adama
i completely lost my interest in natgate at current valuation given its shitty profitability. Now they cant even maintain at least 5% gross profit margin and the best part is: 40% of ai server profit goes to non controlling interest!

I used to place a very huge bet on them months before it caught everyone else attentions. In facts it contributed a very big portion of my profit this year. Too bad this kind of result is just too far from my expectations...
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PRODVESTOR
“We will focus on undervalued companies that have low gearing with potential to grow, and good management track record said Tan Chong Koay , the founder and chief strategist of Pheim Asset Management Sdn Bhd

The focus will be on companies with low gearing, attractive pricing, rising profitability, good management, and a positive sector outlook, he added.
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PRODVESTOR
Natgate could be Topglove 2.0 , Ytlpower 2.0 , retailers frenzy .
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PRODVESTOR
The speculative retails frenzy , I think, is almost there
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Admiral Adama
believe it or not, i even predicted that the company will have huge amount of forex gain even when everyone expect them to have forex loss just like others usd dominated revenue company..
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SEA BOBO
Tan Chong Koay legend wor...
South East Asia small cap king haha
But his book hmm...
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PRODVESTOR
“The key to investing is not assessing how much an industry is going to affect society, or how much it will grow, but rather determining the competitive advantage of any given company and, above all, the durability of that advantage.”
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PRODVESTOR
@Adama can you share about your investment methodology? How did you achieve such a remarkable return in 2024 ? Honestly , your ROI is super impressive
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PRODVESTOR
Additional to OBO, “Co-packaged Optics” and “Optical I/O” is promising to further shorten electrical paths with highly assembly integration, so that it is possible to deliver even higher bandwidth to ensure better energy efficiency (pJ/bit) and capital expenditure ($/Gbps) over pluggable optics.

https://ase.aseglobal.com/silicon-photonics/

World Largest OSAT provider : ASE

Can see big players look high on this cutting edge technologies .
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PRODVESTOR
All the worldwide big tech companies like Nvidia, Tsmc , Foxconn , Ase , Broadcom, Jabil etc mentioned the importance of this technology , can just google , easily found on website . TSMC even formed a silicon allies with UMC , Mediatek, Vanguard , ASE in Taiwan
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PRODVESTOR
Khazanah announces investments into ViTrox-backed Cambrian Fund and AI firm Syntiant Corp
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Admiral Adama
It is hard to say in just a few words. Simply put, i do things that what math and science suggest...
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Admiral Adama
i mean the real math and science, not the pseudo kind...
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PRODVESTOR
Math to count for the real intrinsic value, enterprise value of the company? Are you more towards FA analysis ?
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Admiral Adama
None of them. These are just the math of economy that do qualitative analysis which in my opinion it is very much subjective and arbitrary depend on how u interprete them. economy = pseudo science.

What i focus is statistics and probabbbility, behaviour financials and game theory. Let the real math and real science guide us in decision making...
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PRODVESTOR
Very very chim , we are different league, haha you are in Premier League
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Admiral Adama
but then, luck is crucial haha...Over the last 4 years my average roi was 20% only. With my exceptional performance this year, now my 5 years roi is about 40%.

Of course, all that were done with beta below 1 and the standard deviation of my equity curve stayed below 2% in last 5 years. The only year i didnt achieve positive alpha was last year where i only made single digit return *sigh*
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PRODVESTOR
“As generative AI demands more energy and processing power, the data center must evolve—and co-packaged optics can make these data centers future-proof,” said Dario Gil, IBM senior vice president and director of research, in a press release.

IBM says future Connectivity for Data centres lies in CPO

https://newsroom.ibm.com/2024-12-09-ibm-brings-the-speed-of-light-to-the-generative-ai-era-with-optics-breakthrough
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PRODVESTOR
Adama , may the force be with you , hope you can double the ROI in 2025
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PRODVESTOR
“The leading GPU providers—AMD and NVIDIA—and semiconductor foundries— GlobalFoundries, Intel Foundry and TSMC—combined with the backing of Advent, Light Street and our other investors underscores the potential of our optical I/O [input/output] technology to redefine the future of AI infrastructure,” said Mark Wade, CEO and cofounder of Ayar Labs, in a press release.

Other investors that participated in the latest funding round include 3M Ventures, USA, and Autopilot, USA. They join existing in
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PRODVESTOR
@SEA BOBO , a few news for you to digest . One from IBM and another from Ayer Lab
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PRODVESTOR
Led by Advent Global Opportunities, UK, and Light Street Capital, USA, this latest infusion of series D funds put Ayar Labs into rare “unicorn” territory as a privately held startup with a total valuation exceeding US$1 billion.
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SEA BOBO
@Adama
Your methodology too keat la... Very hard to understand...
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SEA BOBO
@Derrick
Thanks for the news.
I understand the potential of this technology. The whole industry is pouring billions to make it happen. I think probably we will start to see silicons that are copackage with the optical module appearing in the data center next year. Being early does not equal to being wrong.
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Marcus -
今天继续收 Are you ready
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PRODVESTOR
@SEABOBO my pleasure , ECA is now like casino , placing bet and betting with operator
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SEA BOBO
After revealing a sh*t qr still can stay at this price level... Memang bursa de casino...
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SEA BOBO
TSMC’s silicon photonics work is bearing fruit with its first co-packaged optics (CPO) samples expected to be sent to Nvidia and Broadcom next year, media report, and allow data to speed at 1.6 terabits-per-second (1.6T) over fiber optic connections in AI data centers as early as the 2nd half-2025.
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SEA BOBO
TSMC and Broadcom’s jointly developed microring modulator (MRM) has passed 3nm trial production, and will enable integration of top AI chips into CPO modules, the report says. TSMC is expected to use CoWoS or SoIC for packaging and may work with partners like Shunsin Technology due to packaging complexity.
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SEA BOBO
It has been reported that Taiwan’s TSMC has recently started collaborating with multiple partners, including Korean equipment companies, to develop equipment for silicon photonics processes.

Previously, TSMC announced plans for mass production of silicon photonics by the end of 2025. However, some speculate that this timeline could be accelerated.

TSMC’s key clients include long-standing partners such as NVIDIA, AMD, and Broadcom.
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SEA BOBO
No need to speculate ady... Timeline ady confirmed by TSMC, Nvidia and Broadcom. It's going to be second half of next year.
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PRODVESTOR
TSMC previously announced its plan to mass produce optical semiconductors in 2025. It is estimated to be as early as the second half of next year. This supply chain construction is also interpreted as a move to quickly prepare for mass production. Some say that TSMC's speed of preparation for the optical semiconductor process may accelerate, which could lead to an advance in the mass production schedule.
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PRODVESTOR
@SEABOBO I've opened a new thread . Let's discuss there ,cheers
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cheng
wowo. 13 cents is here. Indeed old habits die hard for Luster Chuah :)
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SEA BOBO
@cheng
How's your QES bet?
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SEA BOBO
There's a reason why I don't consider to bet on QES, u know why?
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cheng
All is well, SEA BOBO :)
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SEA BOBO
All the best cheng. How's their Batu Kawan plant and frontend semicon equipment?
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cheng
Thanks, Sea Bobo. I bought it early 2024 when it went down to 50 cents. Did not rebalance when it shot up above 70 cents. However, I rebalanced my positions at 0.60 recently due to the poor external headwinds mainly driven by overvaluation of techs in US. That helps to bring my avg cost lower :) I am hoping its making good progress with the JV plant which is scheduled to start operating by phases starting end of last year. Expected heavy capex to fit out the plant last year and going into this year.
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SEA BOBO
Best of luck cheng.
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cheng
Thanks, Sea Bobo. Btw, I believed Aimflex is fairly priced now given that it is similar to the pp price at 0.13. Will the two Chuah from Luster make their moves now? Probably not yet as Aimflex has announced the delays of pp funds utilisations and also some of the funds from IPO by 36 months to 60 months. Additionally, the two Chuah from Luster remuneration package is totalling about 1M from Aimflex and they are not in the rush. The next move will depend on announcement of the utilisation of the funds.
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lau andy kok chong
in chuah ! we trust !..?...
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SEA BOBO
@cheng
Ok, thanks for the advice.
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cheng
ermmm... they are the two Chuah from Luster, Andy. Its better to trust the numbers. the previous pp price was 0.127; 0.13 if you will, the last qtr report showing 97M cash eq with 3M borrowings. Approx half of the cash eq are pp funds and IPO funds which has to be utilised. Lets just ignore that for simplicity purpose. Minus the borrowings and that gives you ~0.065 to 0.07 net cash per share. 0.07 and 0.13 are the two references that you can use to compare your entry price, Andy. Basically, being mindful on the risks / premiums you are paying above these levels.
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SEA BOBO
????
Did you bother to read the quarterly report before commenting?
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cheng
you are welcome, Sea Bobo. Just happens so that the two Chuah are from Luster and I traded Luster previously - the pp trends if you will.
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SEA BOBO
Scroll down a little bit to read how much money is unutilized.

How's your genting trade?
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cheng
all is well, sea bobo. Still a newbie at Genting. Started buying after Q2'24 results - full qtr impact without hard rock hotel which has been taken down for renovations; ~380 rooms capacity and first batch at 4.02. 2nd batch at 3.62. Waiting for Q4'24 results to be released to add the 3rd batch. It will probably take 2 years to see the results; earliest is 2nd half of 2025.
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