Jk Kee's comment on GENTING. All Comments

Jk Kee
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买个期待,送个等待,乐观看待!希望耐心的守候能换来可观的回报!
cheng
you are welcome, Vin.
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Jk Kee
不相信这个季度会有很特出的表现,保持在低价的时候买进。拿了股息继续等待下个季度财报的到来。
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龍虎门
還是genting穩,買來收長期!!
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Jk Kee
买云顶真的很考耐心等待的哦!哈哈
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Jk Kee
每年拿四巴仙左右的股息,个人觉得还是可以接受的。
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Kim Fatt Tham
这个星期不知道GENTING会不会突破RM4
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mint
今天马股什么行情??....
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Yike
today market still ok.. not too jiaksai.. small retreat
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cheng
delayed response to the risks that surfaced end of last year, mint :) more to come at least until Apr. Its raining and thunderstorm out there. Dont go out there and stay in Genting first; dividend, growth plans and no impact to min wage, tariffs, supply chain. Beneficiary of lower interest especially in the US and will probably see further interest cut only in second half 2025.
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Jk Kee
现在外面也是大风大雨啊!留在还有利多在后头的云顶会比较理想吧!
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cheng
One quarter at a time and just continue to monitor any risks that could impact the footfall traffic or its ability to generate cash from its operations. Everyone's risk tolerance, liquidity situation and rate of returns are different too. Manage your own positions well will do :)
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Vin Vin
One day up.. One day drop...
Really emotional damage
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Yike
Ah Thai drawing 2d picture
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cheng
You survived the Aug'24 RWLV complaints + Hard Rock Hotel rooms capacity taken down for renovation period, Vin. This is nothing compared to the few months period. Btw, did you manage to get some tickets during the Dec'24 or Jan'25 period? If yes, you dont need to do anything now until post QR results and in Apr. Well, depending on your own liquidity.
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Vin Vin
Ok understood! SIR Cheng :-)
Yeah.. I got some ticket around 3.61 & 3.67... And last year still hold above RM4.. Just hold at the moment... Hope everything go smooth... Next 2 days is the nervous day for me
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cheng
Alright. Waiting for the qr too. I am hoping for a 10 cents dividend if the net cash from ops rises to 7bil and above. A small reward for long term shareholders.
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pahang kia
i hope so cheng already after QR then is physical AGM time
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cheng
indeed, pahang kia.
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cheng
No surprises from GenP and the cpo price trends should continue until mid of this year.
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Vin Vin
Cheng, gens + genp.. Already 300m for genting... Possible hit 500m for this qe? Hehe. Damn nervous
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Lucas Khor
希望在明天。。。。。。
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cheng
No idea, Vin. I am just hoping to see net cash from ops increase higher from the 3QFY24 baseline of 5.3bil to 7bil and opportunity to add thereafter.
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Choo
I hope dividend will increase little, reward for long term shareholders.
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cheng
It is possible if net cash from ops goes higher, Choo.
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Yike
last paper ..Ah Thai kasih edit qr cantik Sikit
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cheng
first drop of LNG in second half of 2026 it is :) Its in the upstreamonline news, cant share the link as detected numbers as phone numbers :) https://www.offshore-energy.biz/keel-laid-for-indonesias-first-flng-unit/
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Vin Vin
Thx alot cheng!! Your info better than Google :-) but today share price same2
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin. I am waiting for RWLV complaints closure status. The worst fear that started back in Aug'24 was license being revoked and coupled with RWS2.0 short term disruptions. That sent the share price spiralling down and created opportunities for low price entries :) What we may see in the future QR depends on the conclusion. Scenario #1: If license revoked, US segment kaput. This is unlikely given the independent oversight being put in place. Scenario#2: If it is just monetary fines, the recognition of the monetary fines and journal entry comes into play. The fines will be captured as part of expense and the impact is accounting profit goes down, liabilities may temporarily increase until full settlement with cash. Cash will go down and liabilities will reduce again upon settlement. Scenario #2: May provide an opportunity to add given the reaction on accounting profit/loss :)
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Vin Vin
Ok understood! Thx again Sir Cheng!!
But most investor don't like to risky... One day the RWLV cases still haven't settle.. Share price hard to move up RM4++
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cheng
Delete the app and disconnect after work, Vin. Go for a walk/hike and have a good dinner with your family. Come back tomorrow morning and check the report.
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Vin Vin
I deleted the app... But my brain cannot delete. Hahahaha.
By the way thank you very much...
Later will keep swipe 6pm onward... Hope everything all right :-p
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Tteffub Nerraw
Vin, tell me the average price and percentage of losses... dont tell me the amount.. let me see when you can come out break even..
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Yike
sure jiaksai punya ini pattern
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Jk Kee
真没想到会有这么惊讶的业绩啊!看傻了啊!哈哈
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Steven Gan
besok Limit up!!!!!Terbalik Jalan!!!
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Jk Kee
我也想啊!哈哈。。。。。。
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Yike
kasih limit down. .. no more Ah Thai
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PRODVESTOR
Bad Qr means Limit Up ? haha
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Vin Vin
Cheng, any idea on this qe? Become loss... Tmr need sell my kidney. To average genting again...
Since I'm still young.. Doesn't matter.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Cheng, are you surprise ? Or all is within your expectation?
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SEA BOBO
@Vin
Tmr confirm green...
No need to worry man...
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Vin Vin
My heart already no feeling.. Won't effect much.. Hahaha
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Jk Kee
等待五月前会有三块钱的票到来!哈哈
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cheng
Morning Vin, TN. I was hoping for net cash from ops to go up to 7bil and hoping for 10 cents dividend instead of 9 cents. It delivers 7.1bil and 5 cents dividend instead. So, I am sad LKT hoarding the cash instead of distributing it to shareholders. Lol, no pun intended. Capex are really strong and probably a lot going on and need cash. Still, it didn't meet my dividend expectation :( Full year performance: topline up 2% bottom line down 5%, mgmt indicated due to forex and higher cost. I looked at the leisure and hospitality segment's performance comparing q3fy24, q4fy24, FY2023 and FY2024 revenue, adjusted ebitda and its margins. MY and SG segment adjusted ebitda margins are really solid between 30% to 40% qoq and yoy, UK segment is still the same which is normally between 10% to 20%. US segment (GenM's US & Bahamas + Gent RWLV) is a negative surprise; from mid twenties to 14% yoy probably driven by higher expenses. I can understand FY2023 was a high bar to achieve for RWLV but q4fy24 is disappointing; higher revenue lower adjusted ebitda comparing with q3fy24. Its single digit adjusted ebitda margins. MY segment and SG continue to grow, US segment Q4FY24 is lagging. It makes sense why they are bringing in a CFO for RWLV now. If they dont do so, it is possible to report adjusted lbitda instead of adjusted ebitda in the future. Just my opinions, could be wrong. Hope it helps.
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Vin Vin
Morning cheng! Dividend decrease will help company too... Hope is just temporary... Let's see today genting will break 3. 52 or not... Alot investor seem like start to stop loss...
Dividend leases than mco...
Donno what they planning to do next... Myself will hold till end of 2025.... Waiting for surprise :-(
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pahang kia
new york casino lisence also going announce this year first light casino write back dont know when can be done
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Jk Kee
只亏一个亿多竟然会跌到那么激烈啊!
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Yike
because Ah Thai drawing ini style confirm jiaksai
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Kenny T
Queueing for 3 months, today got my order done at 3.50. I only get to buy in a panic scenario LOL
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Yike
direct open break ..magic
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Tteffub Nerraw
Good morning Cheng, any idea on how much the new ceo Tan salary?
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Yike
Ada 100m bha
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SEA BOBO
@TN
Old habit dies hard. Genting Tan will inherit Thai's salary and Thai will continue to enjoy his salary when he was the ceo. No worries, Genting cash flow still very strong :). Resort World Genting in New York very huat, ebitda easily 400 million.
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Yike
why don't open 1 at Sabah kk mountain?
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Tteffub Nerraw
Sea Bobo, sound like a personal atm
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林明德
3.00 sudah mau mari...
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SEA BOBO
Today close green! Yesterday taurx, today solar panel, tmr deepgen AI?
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cheng
No idea either, Vin. As is T-comp approx 12.5M per annum, TN.
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股神
等3.0 再看看 考虑考虑
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Yike
Ah Thai worth nothing because too much debt if clearance
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Kim Yean
还可以进场吗??还是要等 3.00 ?
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股神
还是喜欢投资林梧桐年代的时候
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Jk Kee
重点是你买了可以等两三年才卖吗?
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Yike
jiaksai liao .become next Karim
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林明德
10.26 mai lagi margin call 疯狂的丢票。
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林明德
这个比赌场还要输得更惨,老板输钱。
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mint
genting 能亏钱到这样。。。说明老板真的是白痴
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cheng
GenT and GenM reduced dividend together. The only recent happening is Thailand casino news. GenS did not reduce dividend. Feels like MY entity will bid for Thailand instead of GenS.
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guan yin
认同mint,2020疫情到现在都见到你,你也在这里很久了
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mint
外汇亏那么多季度,还不想办法解决。。拖到那么多年。老板真是死人
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Ricardo Siau
cheng, buying any genting now?
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Vin Vin
这次的跌,还比mco更加残忍。。
因为大家以为2024. 已经回到mco 之前水平。。。
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SEA BOBO
@cheng will buy, he's a smart investor.
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cheng
Not yet, Ricardo. The lower dividend payout was a real bummer. Will consider if it goes below 3.15 due to the adjustment of dividend from 15 cents to 11 cents.
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Nick Chung
Cheng I guess genting is too complicated to be analyzed....
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cheng
it is, Nick. Dare not go into its capital structure :) Just using stress test 40% market crash assumption and cash flow provided by dividend for risk mgmt.
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Ricardo Siau
i could be wrong... seems like the worst is almost over for genting
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Nick Chung
not sure yet with the pressure coming from Thai casino and Japan casino..
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Kyory Lau
What to do.. adamant to overseas expansion. Lower dividend propose by GenM also due to conserve capital for New York need US5 billion and Thailand US3 billion if successful bid.. sell all underperformed overseas assets and maintain GenM and GenS while diversify more stable revenue like green energy and power and plantations better.. if enter those with limited license less competition..
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Kyory Lau
US, UK and Egypt with unstable political and islamic country also risky.. too much gaming and high capital involved
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Yike
ini Kali bbq liao
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Ricardo Siau
hopefully, mr tan will have a cooler head
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Sebastian Loh
Today’s volume is exceptionally hihigh….willt go down to RM2.95?
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cheng
Confirmed GenM bidding for Thailand? Agreed with Ricardo and hopefully Mr. Tan will change the idea of Thailand. Should not repeat Kien Huat Realty-Empire mistake. He should focus on RWLV with the new BODs as q4fy24 performance for RWLV should be addressed; hopefully a cyclical thing instead of structural. It took one and half year to ramp up to FY2023 performance and softened starting second half of 2024.
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pahang kia
i dont think so genm will bid thai casino as financial not enough support more likely is genting singapore
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pahang kia
Genm need focus on new york gaming billion expansaion after get the new york lisence
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pahang kia
probably genm will sell U.S asset later to mother under RWLV combine together then run IPO list in U.S
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cheng
I will not discount the possibility, Sebastian. Reducing the dividend payout is a huge blow to income portfolio for many :( A typical 40% market crash stress test simulated last year based on 5.00 is almost there in 8 months time; 3.00 if you will. I was thinking ok market price is now 4.00, lets start buying in batches until 3.00. Within a blink of an eye, its almost there after 2 batches.
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lau andy kok chong
3.00+1.................
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cheng
GenM and GenT reduced dividend while GenS maintained the dividend payout, pahang kia. Mind boggling.
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pahang kia
Genm need more money prepare for this year new york casino commercial lisence $500m in upfront license fees https://www.vixio.com/insights/gc-new-round-new-york-casino-licenses-come-500m-price-tag
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pahang kia
GenS is only the net cash company compare to other casino operator and thailand want learn singapore so RWS is the only choice win rate will higher than GENM . they got good portfolio can show
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cheng
Thailand eyeing a piece of the duopoly tourist business in Singapore :) They are rushing it. Hopefully Mr. Tan will just observe for now.
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Tteffub Nerraw
Thailand casino is bad for genting lar in my view. It is only 2 scenarios. 1. New competition eat up South East Market share. 2. Genting win the thailand casino, market share maintain but operating cost increase.... that why people sell off...Dato Tan should either Win Thai casino and close Genm or choose not to win and compete fairly for market shares....
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pahang kia
they re doing B2F business different country have different customer base like MY is aim SG no one because of casino go so far glamb better than just go online
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cheng
Let's see how the new CEO handle the pressure cooker role.
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Gn Hb
手套2.0 omggggg
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Yike
become next Karim liao
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Jk Kee
阿汉也是跟着泰哥的大蓝图来走罢了!阿泰也是继续留守着云顶!云顶的未来和前景暂时也是没有什么大改变吧!问题只是他们的薪水到底是多少?哈哈
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