Jk Kee's comment on GENTING. All Comments

Jk Kee
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云顶几时会再破四呢?继续再等待买进。买个期待,送个等待,乐观看待!
Vin Vin
What is your 2025 target price for genting?
RM4.50? Hehe..
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cheng
its 5.00 when I first bought it at 4.02, Vin. It was based on the assumption of 15% discount rate, min 15 cents dividend to be collected for two consecutive years (wanted to ride GenS growth), risk management plan is based on 12% stop loss from the average price. Will continue to add quarterly as long as the price is below 4.02, no deterioration to the variables such as ebitda, dividend payout, its credit ratings which I am currently using BBB/Baa2 and etc.
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cheng
did not include LNG production starting 2026, TauRx and RWNYC full casino license prospect which will boost its ebitda. but these are just my own calculation for my own reference, Vin. You can use the TP targets by IBs - min or average is good enough; equally conservative.
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Vin Vin
Thx again! Cheng!! :-) for the wonderful explanation! This is the greatest angpao ever..
Let's hold til 2025...
Hope rwlv case faster settle 1st
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cheng
you are welcome, Vin. yeah, we should be hearing about the rwlv complaints disposition plan soon.
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Jk Kee
真的是慢慢起到过年吗?哈哈
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cheng
yes it is, jk. slowly but surely.
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cheng
funds rebalancing final week of Dec'24 and first week of Jan'25 should push Genting/GenM higher - the optimistic faction and new funds position beginning of the year :) Will be nice to have it close above 3.90/2.30 accordingly.
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Jk Kee
不错的收盘价,希望2025年的云顶会有个大收获。
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cheng
GenS earnings recovery itself will position it towards high side of 4.0++ and earnings growth to push it to 5.00++ while all else equals. The big jump at the end of 2025 will depend on (1) HMTM UK marketing authorization - first wave (2) RWNYC full casino license status will be known by then if there are no delays (3) first drop of LNG in 2026 (4) Other major market marketing authorization for HMTM to follow suit after UK market - 2nd wave. The significance of the jump depends on TauRx's plans.
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Vin Vin
Cheng, what do you think of the latest taurx news?
https://www.linkedin.com/company/taurx-therapeutics?originalSubdomain=uk
Gens share price seem like didn't move much recently
I am not gonna to sell it if genting qe improve
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cheng
Sounds good as that's what we discussed 2 days ago :) Authority requests for additional information :)
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Vin Vin
Hehe.. Hope everything go well!
Atleast they're processing and need some of information...
Btw happy new year to u cheng!
Thx for giving us alot great info from genting... And We really learn alot from you too! Cheers!
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cheng
GenS Q4 results will be flattish still against Q2'24 when the hard rock hotel capacity were taken down for renovation. GenM will again cover for GenS until Q2'25 where the numbers from GenS will show recovery by then.
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cheng
You are welcome, Vin. Happy New Year to you too :)
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股神
tonight i go genting casino ALL in
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Jk Kee
你到底是股神?还是赌神啊?哈哈
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cheng
Seems like the luxury all-suite hotel will be available in the first quarter of 2025; Q2FY25 numbers should be reflected accordingly. In November, Genting Singapore held a groundbreaking ceremony for its up-and-coming waterfront development at RWS, slated for completion by 2030. The $6.8 billion project adds more than 164,000 sqm to RWS, including plans to build a Super Nintendo World in Universal Studios Singapore (USS). An 88m-high experiential “mountain trail” and two more hotels with 700 rooms are part of the development.

But visitors won’t have to wait until then to visit a refreshed RWS – the first quarter of 2025 sees the soft launches of Minion Land in USS, and a luxury all-suite hotel replacing Hard Rock Hotel Singapore. A rebranded and expanded SEA Aquarium, which will be known as Singapore Oceanarium, will also open in the first half of 2025.
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Jk Kee
cheng 谢谢你又带来了好消息!云顶真的很考耐性啊!当然也值得等待。哈哈
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cheng
you are welcome, Jk. second half of 2025 will be intense for Genting :)
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Jk Kee
对啊!2025年的第二季度财报应该会很理想了。云顶加油!哈哈
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cheng
near term - RWLVS AML complaints disposition plan. Response from RWLVS submitted back in Dec'24, BODs formed which provides oversight/supervision based on the background of the team, Sibella's disposition plan completed and lets not forget that RWLVS contributed a lot from taxes and employment to the Nevada state. I am in the opinion that it will be monetary fines and the revamp of AML policies; unlikely revoking license due to RWLVS contribution to the state.
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Vin Vin
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.fox5vegas.com/2025/01/02/las-vegas-resorts-world-accepts-trump-hotel-guests-after-cybertruck-explosion/%3foutputType=amp
Another RWLV news here help guess from trump hotel..
Once rwlv settle.. I believe the share price will shoot up like turbo 1.5bar psi....
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cheng
Indeed, Vin. The fear of the complaints drove the momentum starting in Aug. A closure of the complaints should have the opposite effect :)
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Vin Vin
Cheers! Sir Cheng!!! :-) hope genting is a black horse in this 2025...
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cheng
Cheers, Vin :)
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Nick Chung
trump is in the neighbourhood
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cheng
Yes, and Genting is a good place for funds from tech stocks :) trade wars, minimum wage salary starting in Feb, over valuation of tech, correction in the making in US led by AI stocks.
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Kim Fatt Tham
Genting is also a good place for people to gamble and cuci money. ha
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Whack9e
So much money laundry ah Kim Fatt Tham can share contact I also have 30 mil to Cuci.
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cheng
Genting 4.0 incoming?
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kok boon liu
cheng,可能吧!已经看到杯柄形态了,不掉破377应该就一直小幅波动往北了
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cheng
Yes, it is kok :) Will continue it's recovery as RWS2.0 upgrades opening gradually starting with Minion Land next month.
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lau andy kok chong
lkt拿年薪2个億真的沒毛病吗?.....
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kok boon liu
lau,我朋友跟我讲,如果只是起起价就能做部长,他做的话应该会成为大马最厉害的部长,没毛病吧!放下两亿等于放过自己。已是定局
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cheng
I looked at remuneration report for FY23 which is showing LKT receiving ~48M at company level which is part of ~114M at the group level, Andy. 114M is approx USD25M for a global integrated resorts company. Robert Goldstein from LVS is receiving ~USD40M. LVS is also a global company. I have no concern with LKT's remuneration looking at Genting's financial performance, dividend payout and capex projects that it is undertaking now :)
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Nick Chung
let's make genting great again - trump 2025
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cheng
slowly but surely, Nick. Funds/insti leading the way. They are the chart maker :)
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cheng
According to Yin, renovations on those floors are underway while Genting Malaysia management had confirmed that they will reopen “eventually”, albeit without a firm date set at this stage.
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Jk Kee
cheng 突破四块不远了吧!哈哈
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cheng
Sounds good, Jk :)
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Vin Vin
Hope genting can break RM4 ASAP.. Today seem like shooting star...
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cheng
taking a break before continuing the recovery journey.
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mint
尼玛, 软脚云顶!!!
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Zhikang Sim
当你看到acw 没有来吹时就知道了
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Vin Vin
Cheng, genting chart look correction... Donno how low it will go...
Hope is just 3.75 bottom
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Kim Fatt Tham
I think it will have CNY rally
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cheng
That should be a decent support area, Vin. I have just added 2nd batch at 3.62 recently. Will not be adding until after Q4'24 results unless price retrace back to 3.62/lower which is unlikely given festive seasons in Q1'25 driving higher footfalls, opening of Minion land in Feb'25 and new gaming floor for GenM while renovations on-going at the Circus/Hollywood.
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Vin Vin
I invested genting almost 9 years...
The price u bought at 3.62 really a big jackpot! Congrats!
Base on the market cap... Genting seem like will overtake Sime anytime soon. . And may reenter the fbmklci component again :-)
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cheng
Thanks, Vin. 2nd half of the year will be intense - RWS new attractions and hotel capacity recovery, RWNYC full casino license bidding results by Dec'25 assuming no delay, first drop of LNG in 2026.
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cheng
9 years is a long time, Vin. The longest that I have hold on to is 8 years, US stocks. 5 years the most for Malaysia stocks.
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Vin Vin
I got buy sell genting during this 9 years... Got some luck as well.. Sold before LGE announce gaming tax hike... Hehe.. Just recently last year bought genting hold until now...
Gens price look quite attractive.. Since the hotel n new minion theme opening soon
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Fatty Bombom
Heavy profit taking as usual when break 390 hahaha…………..just take a break,I think will break 4 before cny …………….gogogo…………..
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Vin Vin
Ok. Fatty. Let's see can get ang pao from genting anot ! :-)
Hope next month can give special dividend 10-12sen ++
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Kim Yean
希望今天云顶有奇迹出现
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Zhikang Sim
我看很难啦... 回调着
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龍虎门
Genting一直炸票,昨天就已經離場了,等便宜再來。除了Ai和銀行,那一個行業價錢最好,穩賺
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股神
逃亡波,等待3.3 来临哇哈哈哈
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龍虎门
昨天3.87賣,今天3.76進過
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Jk Kee
机会是等出来地。。。。。。
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马超海
oh the no oh the no
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Vin Vin
Cheng, this two days I loss one myvi se.. Really unpredictable!!
Eyes tear non stop drop ... Keke...
Hope next month gv special dividend
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cheng
what? either you have a lot on hands or your positions are at the high side at/above 4.70?
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Vin Vin
Drop 20 sen... Almost 35-40k loss for me..
My average not that high.
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cheng
ooh ok. Huge gains vice versa if it is up by RM1 from current price by year end :)
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Vin Vin
Hehe... Wish us luck...
Hold almost 1 year ady... Hope somethings gain back after..
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Fatty Bombom
Cheng,year end trust me at least break new high lah…………if not break new high,I cut………a piece of cake hahaha…………
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cheng
sounds good, Vin, Fatty. looking forward to second half of 2025.
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Kenny T
My queue at 3.50 since early December still not done. Hope it will drop further this time
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cheng
more than 4% yield at 3.70 :) waiting for the funds/insti to make a move again.
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Vin Vin
Sir cheng any idea why this few days klse keep fall.. Coz of the tariff worry? Since msia join the BRICS
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Lucas Khor
Cut The Lose?
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Dirrick Liau
almost everyday share also drop price!
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pahang kia
actually no affect o genting only to manufacturer will suffer after trump become president
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cheng
can be many reasons, Vin. internal and external headwinds. My personal opinions as such: Externally - tariffs, overvaluation of techs, Trump's administration onboarding means new policies will be in placed, inflations and all these means sentiments will be weak. Value and dividend stocks will be in favored during such uncertainties/period. Internally, minimum wage salaries starting in Feb will hit manufacturing sectors given the recent demand and impact of tariffs, and higher civil servants salaries.
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Vin Vin
Ok thanks again cheng...
Now ntg can do.. Just hold and wait for next qe..
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pahang kia
export manufacturer business comfirm all die
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cheng
you are welcome, Vin. I do not think there will be much impact for Genting after being sold down in Aug-Dec'24 due to RWLVS complaints, repricing for short term earnings disruption from GenS and index funds rebalancing. These factors have been priced in / done deal. We will start to see GenS recovery with opening of its attractions starting next month, index funds fully exited, and hopefully to see the disposition plan for RWLVS complaints soon based on 9th December response date. At present price of 3.70, its offering yield of 4.05% which is higher than current FD rate :) Can sleep well as long as there is no risk to its ability to continue generate the cash that we are seeing from its operating activities :)
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Jk Kee
云顶现在的价钱,真的收利息都是很理想了。哈哈
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Vin Vin
After saw your comment... Tmr i buy more again... Hehe...
Hold til this year... Hope got something miracle...
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Jk Kee
只要没发生股灾,今年的云顶会是个好投资。
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cheng
the more rejections from the communities, the higher chances of RWNYC and MGM Resorts to get their full casino license :) https://nypost.com/2025/01/07/us-news/12b-casino-in-nys-hudson-yards-rejected-by-community-board/
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Vin Vin
Morning cheng..
This year end only will know the ny full casino result? So far two court case haven't settle yet... Bahamas and rwlv..
Share price hard to move up
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股神
forever downtrend la , just wait 3.0 wakakaka
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马超海
hailak lo will make me pochan
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Jk Kee
等待低价快点到来。哈哈
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cheng
Bidding to be submitted by Jun'25 and results to be announced by Dec'25, Vin.
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Vin Vin
Ok, terima kasih byk2 :-)
Genting share price go back to square...
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cheng
you are welcome, Vin. closing at 3.70 today if funds/insti willing :)
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Vin Vin
Cheng, seem like LKT never share buy back or support this genting... Let it flow like no tmr...
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cheng
there are two things from values for shareholders perspective, Vin. (1) dividend (2) share buybacks. In the case of Genting, its only dividend for now. If and when share buybacks is executed, that will be a good sign :)
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Vin Vin
Bought genting since my son crawl til now go kindergarten already ....share price still the same...
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cheng
tested your patience to the max, Vin :) I just started buying Genting last year after Q2'24 results is out. Still a newbie. Started buying GenM towards end of 2023; first batch at 2.45 and currently avg at 2.24. Both are providing good yield at the moment and there is no risk to the dividend payout based on the numbers from the report thus far. Will consider to add after each quarter report is released so long the fundamentals / variables used remain intact. Will sell GenM if RWNYC fails to secure the full casino license and hold on to Gent only :)
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cheng
2025 meeting schedule for Nevada Gaming Control Board and Commission has been published. Hopefully, disposition plan is in progress and the agenda will be published once its available. https://gaming.nv.gov/uploadedFiles/gamingnvgov/content/about/agenda-disposition/2025gcb-ngc-meetings.pdf
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Nick Chung
waiting second leg formation
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Vin Vin
Cheng your comment really helpful..
Hope got chance to treat u nasi lemak & teh tarik :-) HAPPY weekend!!!
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lightning domain
so urmmm why down again ?? bad news ??
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Vin Vin
Klci market not beauty... Loser alwyss beat winner... If one company really steady bomb bibi... No need worry short term pain... Look for the future...
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