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JaNe Loh
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认真题:各位给点建议。现在到底是要卖 还是 不卖?还是买?搞到我一头雾水 之前各行各业说不值2.35 劝说不卖,现在连2.35都没有了
Kwong Mingkwei
小姐姐,你要有耐心的学习下去哦…刚开始是要交学费的,买一点点就好,以后慢慢有经验了才放多一点钱…
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chin lua
This independent report was hired to estimate the fair value of GENM. No one can predict a sure-future price, but at least this report can give you some reasonable estimation.
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Ricky TH Ng
We are small fishes, how to swallow a big fish?
We go close to them, we will be swallow up easily.
Have sold at RM 2.35 & don't want to have sleepless night.
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SDX
已经要停牌了,到底要将多少次?耳聋是吗?你应该问的不是卖不卖,而是你自己认不认输,自己判断错误就早点认输,至少还能东山再起
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股神
这个要取决于你的亏损的限额到哪里了,
记住自己这次为什么走上台,居然上去了,不要怕
怕,你就输一辈子了!!
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chin lua
You see what I mean? Zombies are trying to control your mind! Read the report and similar ones from the Internet, and make your own decision, not anyone here, including me!
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C H Lim
不要誤導人,超過75%也不會馬上停牌,最少還會拖2 3 年
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chin lua
Another article concerning different opinions from several investment banks.
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SDX
那些拖很久都没有停牌的公司是因为有申请豁免,云顶已经讲明了不会申请豁免,到底是谁在误导别人?
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SDX
要是自己没有判断能力,每个月出粮了就去买maybank
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Two Note
你有赚就卖咯,还要浪费时间在这里吗?
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JaNe Loh
没赚,现在我目前价位是2.6
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Two Note
2.6以公司业绩来讲,应该很难正常上回去,除非有人炒
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Ah kiat 0819
我的想法是 老板都收购到73%了 突然下跌?是散户自己特点丟票低低的给老板? 还是老板发烂渣收不到75% 而制造恐慌?
如果收到75% 还要通过AGM没有10%人反对呀。。。。

看天哥说的 要下市还有很长的路
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Douglas Lim
不要担心可能明天就2.60了
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SDX
还天哥呢?小心你的天哥自己跑了才来写blog假惺惺通知你们,你们还要反过来感恩戴德
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chin lua
Xenomorph is running amok everywhere again spewing the same old BS without pieces of credible evidence, hahaha:)
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James U
虽然我只是一位旁观者,GENM的评论区可以看尽人性的丑陋。故意散布虚假的资讯来让他人恐慌,自己又可以得到什么好处呢?
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James U
如果接下来Genting Group 收购超过了75%,会不会导致Genting Malaysia suspend trading 呢?在可以询问不同AI,然后比较个别的答案的今天,只要懂得问,答案非常清楚。
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James U
1. Why a Company Can Be Suspended for Lack of Free Float

Bursa Malaysia’s Listing Requirements mandate that at least 25% of a listed company’s shares must be held by the public (public shareholding spread).

If the public spread falls below 25%, the company is considered non-compliant.
Bursa will then:

Issue a notice of non-compliance.

Require the company to submit a rectification plan every 6 months to restore the public spread.

If the company fails to remedy the issue within the allowed period, Bursa may suspend trading and ultimately delist the company.

This rule exists to ensure liquidity and investor protection.
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James U
2. Can a Major Shareholder Pressure the Board to Do Nothing?

In practical terms:
Yes, a major shareholder can exert influence, especially if the board consists mostly of directors aligned with or appointed by that shareholder.

However, from a legality and governance standpoint:
No, they cannot validly instruct the board to violate listing rules.

A major shareholder may wish to delay rectification to push toward a forced delisting or privatisation scenario, but any explicit instruction to ignore Bursa rules would be:

a breach of the Major Shareholder’s duties under the Companies Act (if behaving oppressively),

a breach of directors’ obligations if followed blindly,

exposing directors to regulatory, civil, and possibly criminal consequences.

In real life, such influence is typically indirect or tacit.
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James U
3. Does the Board Have Fiduciary Duties to Maintain Listing Status?

Yes. Directors’ duties in Malaysia are governed by the Companies Act 2016, including:

Section 213 — Duty to act in the best interest of the company

Directors must act in the interest of the company as a whole (not only the major shareholder).

Interpreting “company’s best interest”

For a listed company, the “best interest” includes:

Maintaining compliance with Bursa Malaysia Listing Requirements

Protecting all shareholders (including minority shareholders)

Avoiding actions that cause regulatory penalties, reputational harm, or suspension

Therefore, directors have a fiduciary obligation to take reasonable steps to maintain the company’s listing status.

Consequences of negligence or inaction:

If directors refuse to act to restore the public spread:

Bursa Malaysia may take regulatory action (including reprimands or fines).

Minority shareholders may sue for:

minority oppression (Section 346 CA 2016)

breach of fiduciary duty

Directors risk personal liability if they knowingly act against the company’s interests.

In short:
Failure to take rectification action is potentially a breach of fiduciary duty, especially if the inaction benefits only the major shareholder.
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James U
4. Could the Board Deliberately Allow Suspension to Assist Privatisation?

In theory, yes — companies with controlling shareholders have sometimes allowed their public spread to lapse to make privatisation easier.

BUT:

Bursa monitors this closely.

Bursa can still reject delisting.

Directors cannot simply do nothing. They must show reasonable efforts toward rectification, even if the outcome is unsuccessful.

The board cannot officially submit a “fake” or non-serious rectification plan — that would be evidence of bad faith.
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James U
5. Applying This to the Genting Malaysia Situation

Important points:

Genting Berhad holds a large stake in Genting Malaysia but is not yet at the 75% threshold that would trigger a mandatory delisting offer.

If Genting Berhad continues buying shares and accidentally breaches public spread requirements (public float < 25%), Genting Malaysia must submit a rectification plan.

The Genting Malaysia board includes independent directors who are legally required to protect minority shareholders.

Could Genting Berhad pressure the board to “do nothing”?

They could try, but:

Any board that fails to act risks legal and regulatory consequences.

Independent directors have duties and cannot simply follow the parent company’s desires.

Bursa would view intentional non-compliance very negatively.

If the board intentionally fails to restore free float:

Bursa can suspend trading.

Minority shareholders could sue Genting Malaysia’s directors.

The major shareholder may not automatically get an easier privatisation — Bursa still controls delisting approval.

Thus, the strategy of “letting suspension happen on purpose” is risky and not guaranteed to benefit the major shareholder.
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James U
6. Bottom Line
1. Can the major shareholder pressure the board to not fix the free float?

They can try, but the board cannot legally comply.
Doing nothing violates directors’ fiduciary duties and Bursa rules.

2. Does the board have fiduciary duties to all shareholders to maintain listing status?

Yes.
Failure to take reasonable rectification steps can expose directors to legal liability.

3. Could inaction lead to suspension by Bursa?

Yes — but if proven intentional, it may bring legal consequences against the directors and possibly the controlling shareholder.

4. In the case of Genting Malaysia

It would be legally and reputationally dangerous for the board to ignore Bursa’s rectification requirement, even if Genting Berhad wants eventual privatisation.
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chin lua
Google AI:
"Following the failed privatization bid for Genting Malaysia Bhd (GENM) on December 1, 2025, the offeror, Genting Bhd (GENT), and parties acting in concert are restricted from making another takeover offer for the same company for a period of 12 months. This 'cooling-off period' is mandated by the Malaysian Rules on Take-Overs, Mergers and Compulsory Acquisitions."
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James U
简单来说,即使迟些时候,Genting Group收购超过75%,Genting Malaysia 并不会自动停牌。之前已经有很多类似的例子了。是的,Genting大老板可以“明示”、“暗示” Genting Malaysia 的董事,要求他们”配合“,好让Genting Malaysia 被Bursa 停牌,以吓吓小股东。可是这可是犯法的!林家敢做吗?值得做吗?也许只是一些不明就里的Genting小股东在幻想罢了。其实我认为两边的小股东都是在同一条船上。Genting Malaysia 也好, Genting Group 也好,只要公司的 corporate governance 有问题,大股东继续占小股东便宜,任何一家Genting 的估值都是继续大打折扣!
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chin lua
One credible reference cited is "Mergers & Acquisitions Laws and Regulations Malaysia 2025." Of course, after so many use cases, I trust Google AI can find the right information!

https://iclg.com/practice-areas/mergers-and-acquisitions-laws-and-regulations/malaysia
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James U
回应另一个评论。是的,在某些领域,AI幻觉是个问题,特别是你需要精准答案而又无从比较的情况之下。所以我才说要懂得问,而且要比较不同AI给出的答案。只要懂得问,就可以要求AI提供资讯来源、提供先例、然后自己在综合判断是么是合理的答案。况且今天的LLM已经大有进步。Gemini 2.5 与 Gemini 3.0的表现非常好。起码好过那些乱说一通,口说无凭的人。
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James U
不过老实说,Genting Malaysia与 Genting Group,因为大股东的关系,虽然账面上看来都很便宜,但都是value trap。如果要长期投资,我宁可买更有信誉的公司。
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SDX
我空口无凭哦?当年HLCAP是怎样停牌的?我出现幻觉了?
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SDX
当年要不是yu斗气斗到钱都不要了,现在马股还有HLCAP?
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chin lua
@James, well said, haha:) But, you piss off a creature:)
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James U
你说的对。在2014年,HLCAP的确是少于25% free float 而delist 了。我记得
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James U
但是这件事之后,Bursa 吸取了教训,再也没有因为只是纯粹没有25% free float而轻易delist 一家上市公司,从而对小股东造成伤害。所以之后的FGV,Cycle Carriage, 大股东收到80多percent票,搞了几年才成功私有化。期间Bursa只是仪式上要求董事部每6个月递交计划,并没有采取行动除牌。
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Allan Tan
卖啦,除非你够大户玩。。。
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James U
至于云顶就更不用说了。它已是Bursa的眼中钉,又是媒体的关注,Bursa岂会助紂为虐,打烂自己的招牌?
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chin lua
@James, true, I do not trust LKT as well—too ambitious! Since I acquired the GENM shares very low in April, I may still hold them until May next year to witness the effects of the drastic Fed rate cut on the ringgit (stronger) and GENM (mostly ringgit generator)!
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James U
Ambitious is not wrong. But Genting has serious corporate governance problems. The way it funded Empire Resort by initially subscribing multiple rounds of preference shares rather than outright purchase; the way it structured the deal below 5% value to evade a vote by the minority; all of them speak volume about its treatment of minority shareholders. That's why cheap has become cheaper over the years.
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SDX
当年合发吉星为什么不用肮脏招数我怎么知道哦,他怕还是他很正直噢?
至于FGV,官联公司肯定不能玩这些下三滥手段啦
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SDX
这么巧?
收购开始前就先信心满满借好了钱
刚好收购最后一天猛加8%accaptance
刚好差2%到75%停牌门槛
刚好Genting可以用2.35以下再买2%
刚好genm股价跌破2.35
正常人看到73%就跑了咯,人家拿枪指着叫你快滚,你站着赌别人不敢开枪?
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SDX
logic一点好吗?
如果你现在面对genm的纸面亏损,想等它升回去再卖掉,所以坚持不卖
但是你有没有想过一个问题,你卖了genm去买genting的话,你等genting升回去的难度是和你等genm升回去的难度是一样的
重点是,两个难度相同的情况下,你不需要承担genm停牌的风险
这么简单的道理,为什么转牛角尖?
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chin lua
How come this stubborn creature has no respect for personal free will at all?
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SDX
人家开贴问意见我不可以回答哦,uncle你这么霸道的咩,觉得我讲的不对反驳我啦,你除了人身攻击还会什么
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chin lua
At least I showed the AI many times, yet to see one from you, hahaha:)
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SDX
又来AI,只有你会用AI?只是别人用了不会像你这样post出来当神谕用咯好不好?
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SDX
让你把AI改成猫娘改了吗?还是你不知道怎样改?要我教你吗?还是你自己去问AI
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chin lua
@Loh needs credible information, not your cyberbullying—watch your language and be respectful, OK?
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SDX
我刚才认真写的意见有问题?是你自己过来阴阳人先的噢
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chin lua
I have no language standard towards a cyberbully, hehe:)
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SDX
呵呵,又透过贬低别人来试图赢得争论,是不是用AI用多了,觉得自己好像比别人知道很多东西
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chin lua
I was a pioneer in the military AI drone research. Of course, I know AI more than you, haha:) Use an AI to search my IEEE paper if you can, haha:)
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chin lua
Google AI:
"In Malaysia, forcing people to sell stocks is a crime under market manipulation laws, primarily governed by the Capital Markets and Services Act 2007 (CMSA). The Securities Commission Malaysia (SC) oversees these regulations and has taken action against individuals for manipulating stock prices through various deceptive and unlawful practices."
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chin lua
@Loh is facing RM2.60 - RM2.25 (today) = RM0.35 per GENM share, and RM350 per 1K shares. Such a painful decision should be made by her, not Xenomorph!
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WHO AM I
首先,你要知道的是,不满足25%public spread是不会马上下市的,会有一个announcement,讲几时会delist from bursa, 第2,你都走到这里了,你现在才要卖?
第3,根据公司法令,你不卖,你永远还是股东。他们拿不了你怎样的,有股东大会,还是要叫你,right issue还是会通知你,有派dividend的话还是会派你。
第4,gent要从genm拿钱,唯一省税的方法就是派dividend.

第5,不要忘记,赌场在马来西亚是monopoly license, 加上美国赌场license叻,敢敢hold 它罢了。

第6,当然如果LKT是可以不派息的,然后派几个director来genm拿薪水,不过不缺实际的啦,因为个人税超过100k之后每一块tax 25%. 你就每年AGM去念一下管理层咯

第6,下市后,用right issue来把你的股份变少(如果你不subscribe的话) 可能性低,因为gent要出更多钱。

不过你急用钱的话可以现在卖,不急用钱,然后理解下市后是很难卖的了,可以敢敢hold.不要慌
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WHO AM I
想买更多,等便宜点,或者当宣布即将delist时,应该会更便宜。 但你要理解,这些票是很难变卖了,就算下市后有人要跟你买,也需要Board of directors的同意,不要怕。我也有票,都不打算卖,以后可以跟自己的孙子讲,我是云顶赌场的股东,哈哈
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Ju Jing Yi
下市是已成定局了的,是看谁要跟老千耗而已

人家是庄家,会把你连骨头都吃下去
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Ju Jing Yi
你讲收购到来只有60%,散户还有机会谈条件啦

现在是收购到73%+了的,人家是不差你散户的票
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Kasey Tan
不要怕, delist, genm 更怕,除非genm 放弃Malaysia生意,不然的话,winding petition ,sdn bhd小股东也可以拿回钱,gent需要100%genm share
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Kwong Mingkwei
有始至终,主导权都在他手中,能不能成事,他心里有数,我们小股东,只能听天由命,任由他摆布,是吃肉还是喝汤,全看他…
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boy boy
不要怕,下市变成私人有限公司,不可以在公开市场买卖了,最多握着,改天留给孙子。
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Panda Yeong
很多人只会吹水乱乱写太可怕了
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Kwong Mingkwei
把自己放在对方的角度思考,你就会明白了,如果你是老板你会怎么做?剩下的25%,那些散户的票,你会收什么价?假设你的公司很有钱,像天哥讲的offer高一点给大家,让小股东高兴高兴,是这样吗?也许吧!一个人转性也不是不可能…
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Meaw meaw Cat
@kasey , court 是不会受理 winding petition 的 , 肯定 reject , Genm哪里几十万个人的饭碗 。 除非公司有严重财务问题。
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woei
放心啦。90%很难收到。如果老板有心收,一定会再出高价。
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BEN Yee
担不起风险那早些时候干嘛去?
要得到更多那必须承担更多的风险。
那个什么哥没叫你们在2.38放出去,然后 2.18再买回,再然后收著,等老板出高价收购吗?不要急。等那哥出来指路,等好市时他会出现的。
万勿急病了,赚到那一些是不夠给医藥費。
財富诚可贵但健康更是宝!
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Derrr
你有结果了吗能知道你是卖还是留着能分析吗?
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chunye low
买2.18,拉低本钱吧。。。。。。
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Lau Chang Wern
half boiled egg 天哥 asked member stand firm , do not sell at 2.35 , this time kena liao ...
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FrankLampard8
不要搞人家啦,大势已去还买个毛线,现在2.20卖半天都卖不出,已经是老狐狸控制的局面了
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Bhoe
不賣只是賬面損失,公司賺錢,不缺錢用就不怕
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marvellous s3mn
看吧不卖的后果,老板对你们怎样???
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Kwong Mingkwei
唱好不行,唱坏更加不可以,不要再问了自己决定…
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boy boy
之前讲75%不可能收到,很难,
现在讲90%不可能,笑死人真的这些虾米。
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Ling YC
问了伤心,不问又不甘心.
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Lee WX
根据交易所条例规定,收购提案失效后的12个月内,收购方最多仅可购入目标公司2%的上市股份。

但现在云顶已经有73.133%了。所以要过75%只是时间问题了。

大众持股不到25%就会有停牌的风险。停牌了股市就不能交易。

公司不能解决大众持股不到25%的问题,就会有下市的可能。
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PG Tiong
我有100000股我没卖
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Rudy Chew
再不卖就更低了……..
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CKok Ken
I bought it for 1.82, and I haven't sold it yet.
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Yak King doo
加码,之前2.36卖掉,现在2.18买回
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Anthony Teo
Offer now buy and buy buy buy buy
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AnotherTwo
i want to buy now but i scare delist.. how ah..
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C H Lim
then go buy genting la not genm
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Kwong Mingkwei
有很多人买在2块以下,2.35是个好价钱…
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soon keat Chew
机构骗你不要卖 他们偷偷卖完了 剩下你们??
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J Avenue
姐你卖了吗?。。。。。
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woei
现在机构偷偷买,然后3块再卖。…………
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JaNe Loh
J Avenue我还没卖 反正都亏着5位数,继续等看看怎样吧……
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Domo Kum
我也亏着着5位数,也是还没卖,也想着再等等看
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Yak King doo
这个股90%的人在亏钱的
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Ricky TH Ng
Yes, I bought in 2020 also loss money ?.
So sad, small fish trying to eat the shark, eventually got eaten without a trace.
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Ricky TH Ng
Anyway, this is life, you win some and you loss some. No sunny day every day in a year.
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woei
最后收90%也是卖2.35
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